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PJ's avatar

Thank you Dr Yoho and Curious Outlier, for your service to humanity. And a happy and healthful New Year.

EK MtnTime's avatar

What PJ said!👆

Dawna Stevens's avatar

Just recently had Dr Yoho's previous CDS article forwarded to me so I'm new here.

I was made aware of chlorine dioxide about 2 years ago. I was deathly ill from Lyme disease, mold, and lead toxicity, diagnosed by a Functional MD who ran the right tests after me Dr hopping for 8 yrs.

I use straight CDS (already mixed) and began at the lowest dose slowly working up to 10ml of CDS to 1 litre of water. I was also doing a few other notable therapies such as infrared sauna, ionic footbaths, herbal tinctures & DMSO so I can't claim my recovery is 100% CDS. But I'm well enough now that I'm buying a pair of trail running shoes to start running! So grateful for alt therapies and CDS in particular. It really is a miracle cure for so many things

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I would consider a teaspoon of DMSO five days a week as well

Dawna Stevens's avatar

TY! After reading your info on DMSO I was about to go back and read the chapter on DMSO in Andreas Kalcker's book, Forbidden Health, Incurable Was Yesterday.

KC's avatar

Dawna - thank you for your experience. I am in a similar boat with chronic Lyme, EBV, and environmental toxins. Doctor-hopped 3 years before correctly diagnosed. I’m getting started with CDS and DMSO (among other things), thanks to Dr Yoho, A Midwestern Doctor and Curious Outlier. Did you find infrared sauna truly worth it? I’d have to buy a sauna membership (1x/ week) on top of many other expenses. Did you use Jim Humble’s mold protocol? Thanks for any tips. Congrats on your new trail running endeavors - I was a serious runner, pre-illness, and miss it dearly. Thank you.

Dawna Stevens's avatar

Hello Kristen. Glad you finally got a dx. I got so weary of friends and family putting me in the hypochondriac category pre diagnosis!

On the sauna, 100% YES! I read a few pub med studies stating that they measured the most lyme bacteria through sweat, over the other elimination pathways. We live very rural (as in off-grid) on the top of a mountain and its an hour drive to the nearest town, which is quite small. So we bit the bullet and invested in a Finmark sauna which comes in panels for easy assembly. Still use it at least 3x weekly. I believe it's been the strongest (but by no means the only) healing modality I've used which matches the research on Lyme.

I didn't know Jim Humble has a mold protocol! Great to know. I subscribe to several blogs of LLMD (lyme literate MDs) and follow one MDs in particular. Since I'm not wealthy in money I take advantage of all the free info these health practitioners give away! Search out Dr Todd Madaris in San Francisco and read his articles. They've benefitted me greatly. I do still struggle with mold in my sinuses (no test proves this is where the mold is but I have nasal and respiratory problems that lead me to believe I should address the mold in these areas) and made my own solution of CDS and distilled water and put it in a glass nasal sprayer I got off Amazon. I started with 1 drop and am working my way up. I just learned about SNOOT on this forum! That's what I'd do if starting over.

Before we owned a sauna I was so ill I nearly died. I stopped breathing and my husband (an ER RN) found me unresponsive on the floor and revived me. Immediately after that we had a RN friend that taught us how to do "fever baths" known also as hydro therapy. We used our soaker tub. That is what started turning my health around and infused life in me. We're taught that fever is bad and to lower body temp immediately but fever is a powerful healing mechanism. Almost like God knew that 😉 when designing the human body.

I hear the loss of running in your message. Let that be a motivator to get well! I've never ran in my life and my husband asked me why I wanted to now. My answer... Because I can now!

Warm wishes for your recovery!

Bandit's avatar

Of course, He knew fever heals. I don't believe he was experimenting.

KC's avatar

Thank you for your advice and encouragement! I’m sorry you endured so much, for so long. It is a very hard and often lonesome road. You are obviously strong and courageous. It’s motivating to hear of your recovery. I do believe there is truth in the idea of fever as healing (including God’s natural design). There is a treatment overseas for Lyme that purportedly kills the pathogens and cures the Disease - Hyperthermia (induced fever up to 107 F). Due to the high expense of those clinics, I will have to stick to infrared sauna, try fever baths, and hope it’s enough (along with CDS and DMSO) to slay the dragon.

Happy trails, and prayers for your continued healing!

Thank you, Dr Yoho, to devoting so much time to such critical heath information amidst your own health challenges.

MarshaGail's avatar

JimHumble.com >click on 3dashes & go to MMS FORUM - Xcellent resource

Dina deVries's avatar

What dose did you start out with ~ and did you have water with it? I am happy to hear of your great progress and health.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I just jumped in with a tablespoon 5 days a week orally after initially trying topical. It must be diluted in a glass of water or juice. A more judicious approach would be to start with a teaspoon a day.

Strohflow's avatar

At what concentration??

Dawna Stevens's avatar

TY Dina! I've had a long 13 yr journey to get to where I am today. After watching the documentary The Universal Antidote and deciding I was going to try CDS I bought the book Forbidden Health, Incurable Was Yesterday by Andreas Kalcker and started Protocol C "General Cleansing" which is 10 ml CDS/day in 1liter of water. But because I was Goldilocks (super sensitive - everything had to be "just right" to function) I started at 1 ml CDS per liter of water. Every hour I drank 150 ml of the CDS solution, drinking the entire liter in a day. Based on my reaction I either stayed at that dose the next day or raised it up by 1 ml when I mixed my solution for the day until I was at the recommended 10 ml CDS/1liter of water. Dr Kalcker's book is invaluable if you want to understand what CDS is, it's history, a quick list of protocols A-Z and by illness, how to make your own CDS (I chose to buy it ready made-no mixing), why it works, tons of testimonials from people all over the world, as well as about DMSO. Best advice I can give is to educate yourself on any healing modality you're curious about! I became a student of the human body, alternative healing modalities, how others healed themselves, and asked myself this question every morning, How can I help myself today? I also prayed daily asking for God's direction and the courage to move forward in whatever He led me to.

My people perish for lack of knowledge...Hosea 4:6

Warm wishes for your success!

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

MMS is easier once you have gotten used to CDS. MMS is far stronger, too.

Dawna Stevens's avatar

I had no idea MMS is stronger than CDS. I thought they were the same thing. When I first discovered any of it I had extreme brain fog (to the point I avoided many normal activities, like driving, for instance) and thought it best not to be mixing chemicals, so bought the ready made CDS from Aquarius in Europe and most recently, All One Wellness in Canada. Thx for the info!

Integrity and Karma's avatar

Thank you so much for being a vivacious human, and for the book recommendation!

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

Thanks Dawna! I will start tomorrow as I just got my CDS. I need to figure out a bottle to use and get some distilled water. It helps so much for the actual numbers and way you did this. I ordered Kalckers book but I won't have it for a few days yet. CAN'T WAIT TO GET STARTED.

Dawna Stevens's avatar

Awesome news Lincoln Lover! I used an empty 1 liter glass bottle that olive oil had been bought in. It works very well. Best wishes on your health journey!

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Dawna Stevens's avatar

Hello Vinnie:

I've bought no-mix CDS from these companies:

https://aquarius-prolife.com/en/ (somewhere in Europe)

https://allonewellnessnow.com/ (Canada)

I highly recommend the glass bottles as I've had issues with the plastic. I'm looking for a new source in the US.

Best wishes for good health!

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

appreciate the links!!!! Thank you.

MarshaGail's avatar

Amazon also carries it as do some Walmart & sporting goods stores.

MarshaGail's avatar

Always use spring or distilled water

MarshaGail's avatar

JimHumble.com >click on 3 dashes the MMS Forum; Xcellent resource

Dawna Stevens's avatar

TY! After reading your info on DMSO I was about to go back and read the chapter on DMSO in Andreas Kalcker's book, Forbidden Health, Incurable Was Yesterday.

Dina deVries's avatar

May I ask your state & functional doctor’s name? Would you be able to PM me? Thank you.

Dawna Stevens's avatar

Amy Sparks, MD

Las Vegas, NV

Although I'm in Northern Arizona, Vegas is just a 2 hr drive

Dawna Stevens's avatar

I'm afraid I don't know how to PM Dina!

MarshaGail's avatar

U can do a Google search (or whoever u use as ur search engine). Just query "Functional Medicine/Orthomolecular doctors in my area"

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

i am going to start when my CDS arrives soon. So what is the lowest dose to start with? Please advise and thank you very much.

Dawna Stevens's avatar

Hello Lincoln Lover! Pls see my reply to Dina above. With CDS there's really no one dose fits all. It's about your state of health (or more precisely, your state of toxicity) but given CDSs safety record don't be afraid to start and increase as tolerated.

Warm wishes for your good health!

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

Thank you Dawna! i just read all your comments which were extremely helpful. I am so grateful for everyone who comments here, with their experience or questions, as it is invaluable to our education on these great therapies and cures!!!!!!!!! THANKS TO THE DR. FOR MAKING THIS AVAILABLE!!!!!

MarshaGail's avatar

One drop of each is a good starting point added to 4oz distilled or spring water in a glass (never use metal). Xcellent Info at JimHumble.com >click the 3dashes then click MMS Forum.

CA's avatar

You, Dr. Yoho, A Midwestern Doctor and Curious Outlier, whose website I found via your substack, are my favorite health writers. Welcome to Substack, Curious Outlier and thanks for bringing Jim Humble's work to a new and wider audience.

beverly hendricks's avatar

Happy New Year, Dr. Yoho and Curious Outlier!!

Alina's avatar

My husband and I are recently using chlorine dioxide, but there’s no day that I am not thinking “maybe it’s a scam”? Please forgive… coming from communism and Catholicism, and being deceived many times, it’s really hard to trust anyone anymore.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Exactly, but you must make your decisions based on the evidence available. Start with the links in the first paragraph of my posts.

Ralph Lewis's avatar

To bolster an UNDERSTANDING about Chlorine Dioxide’s many uses for symptoms and REAL results from CAUSES removed.

Watch the documentary at : www.TheUniversalAntidote.com

… and, afterward, dig into the myriad uses and miraculous results attributed to “DMSO.”

Live and learn why Big pHARM-US-see$ suppresses ALL the simple, inexpensive STUFF THAT WORKS !

MarshaGail's avatar

JimHumble.com >click the 3dashes then MMS Forum

maria b's avatar

I thought this as well. However it is just pennies per dose and so just a month of experimentation will show you its broad spectrum effects.

MarshaGail's avatar

I've used it for years. Over 70+ hospitalizations, 60+ diagnoses, countless "medications, 2 heart attacks, 2 strokes,lung & kidney cancer (kidney xtraction), 20+ surgeries, loss of vision in R eye & countless docs telling me for over 45yrs that I'm "disabled" & will b on meds4life. I'm now 70 & Much much wiser - NO docs, NO Rxs & feel better than I Ever have. NATURAL, Godzgiven Medicine WORKS. Just go Slow & Do your own Research👊🤗

Alina's avatar

Thank you for your astounding testimony. Keep faith… Thank you for your response and encouragement.

Dawna Stevens's avatar

Knowledge is power so educate yourself on CDS. The book Forbidden Health, Incurable Was Yesterday by Dr (pHD) Andreas Kalcker is a good one to have in your library

Leslie Grewing's avatar

I’ve had my two bottles for a couple of years but was confused how to combine. Thx for the easy recipe. Tomorrow I begin!

Recently discovered MSM and DMSO. Fantastic products! I ingest them and apply to lower back (scoliosis). I also use infrared sauna and vibration plate. Add outrageous humor of Instagram and I figure I’ll live to 100 (humor being good medicine).

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

DMSO is only second the CD

Leslie Grewing's avatar

First CD attempt I screwed up. Could hardly see a drop from each bottle. So I used five drops from each bottle. Swirled, amber color showed up, waited a minute. Added 6 oz water. Took one swallow. WRONG! Felt physically weird. Whoa! Got real tired. Took 90 minute nap. Later found out that I had overdosed.😱 Still alive. Found my “MMS Health Recovery Guidebook.” Let’s try this again.

MarshaGail's avatar

JimHumble.com >click the 3dashes then MMS FORUM. Dr. Stanley Jacob, et al have an Xcellent book: The Miracle of MMS The Natural Solution for Pain (1999 first print).

Dawna Stevens's avatar

Hi LeslieG! I also use infrared sauna and a vibration power plate. Activates the lymphatic system to remove those toxins.

Lal9's avatar

thank you so much for this practical information on creating and using what I suspect is a wonderful healing substance!

Susie AH's avatar

I have been meaning to try CDS but having started both methylene blue and DMSO (very beneficial and definitely life changing) I’m wondering how best to proceed. Do I gradually start the CDS and refrain from taking the other two whilst I’m taking CDS? Any advice on the matter would be appreciated.

Dina deVries's avatar

Interested, too!

MarshaGail's avatar

It is not recommended that u use MB with CD as it cancels it out.

Unapologetically Me's avatar

Thanks Doc & CO.

Happy New Year. 🍾🥳🎉♥️

And Auld Lang Syne.

You might enjoy this short rendition by a couple of buskers.

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Hoping for a Regime Change in Canuckistan in '25.

#HoldTheLine

#HonkHonk

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Dina deVries's avatar

Thank you Dr. Yoho~ wishing you and everyone a great New Year’s to come as we continue our journey together in this great battle against us.

SwissGentleman's avatar

Someone mentioned mixing with DMSO. Does that work?

Any tip for people affected by mid to advanced dementia/AD?

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

read the last DMSO article (summary of AMD)

both have activity against dementia

Drinking silica water such as Fiji forces the excretion of aluminum in the urine. Aluminum is the primary cause of Alzheimer's. I have two articles about this, one regarding Exley and the other about another expert, https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/death-by-aluminum-part-2-our-automatic?utm_source=publication-search. Search my substack for aluminum.

Jane A's avatar

I’ve read to wait at least 1 hour after dmso to drink your CD. They cancel each other out if taken together.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Not sure but I take CD during the day and DMSO at bed. It has some sleep effects.

maria b's avatar

DMSO is added to mms1 to cause it to penetrate more deeply.

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

i have read that as well.

MarshaGail's avatar

Also look n2 nicotine patches/gum for help with AD (& definitely can't go wrong with with CD/dmso)

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thank you for the detailed explanation.

I was wondering how CD worked and how it should be administered.

Mari Gold's avatar

Making it as MMS instead of the CD gas is so much easier. Let me know if you have any questions I’ve been making it for years.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

It is my belief that MMS has the same clinical effects exactly as CDS. It is much stronger so if you have trouble, you must cut the dose.

MarshaGail's avatar

Use MMS if treating R.Arthritis or Autism - otherwise CD

SwissGentleman's avatar

CD also for dementia/AD? Asking as intuitively I would have thought it would need an approach similar to autism. Thank you, God bless:)

MarshaGail's avatar

Please also chk n2 Black seed oil, vitamin K & medium chain triglycerides (most plentifully found in coconut oil - (extra Virginia coconut oil or MCT). Praying u well🙏

MarshaGail's avatar

Correction: Extra VIRGIN Coconut Oil (😖damn machine).

MarshaGail's avatar

Can use either - gradually increasing. I would start at one drop dose/day then 1 drop twice/day (as tolerated) then increase by I additional drop up to 4drops/day & maintain that dose for 1 wk - CD/MMS works best at the lowest effective dose. If after 1wk & no noticeable improvements I would increase by add. drop twice/day. Can also do a foot soak of dmso + CD/MMS - 2drops CD/mms + 6- 8 drops dmso in about a liter or so of distilled water. Never use metal & go Slow! Avoid coffee, supplements & antioxidants within 4hrs of dosing or eliminate coffee altogether. Cut sugar & processed foods. Namaste.

Laura's avatar

Hi Mari

Interested! Thank you

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

As was I. I purchased the two bottles needed to make the solution nearly two years ago, but have yet to try it. I think I'm afraid of a reaction. Now I need to make sure what I have is still good to use. They are in dark plastic bottles, no date on them.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Mix a couple drops and if they turn yellow-brown they are ok

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Mike Adams from naturalnews.com always would talk about using CD when he was feeling under the weather. But, he never explained the details.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

But he promotes space invaders and cyborg warriors. He is unreliable and likely paid.

Jane A's avatar

It’s easy to make! Have no fear!!

How to make -

https://odysee.com/@Truewholehuman:c/Chlorine-Dioxide-Tutorial-2:2

Blessings in this New New Year 💕

Bandit's avatar

I haven't tried it on myself yet either. I have tried it on my 3 dogs. I made 2, 5 gal jugs. (It was reverse osmosis water.) They drank more water than normal, so they must have liked the taste. The oldest one acted like he felt a little better. But, I have lost my ability to get the water, I can't lift and carry a 5 gallon jug of water. So, now they just get my well water half a gallon at a time.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

A year ago I got a water distiller. I could no longer make the trips to a supermarket 30 miles away to lug 10 or 12 gallons home at a time. It makes a gallon in about 4 hours. I usually make one a day, and have plenty set aside. The machine easily paid for itself in two months.

Well water should also be a good option, in most areas of the country.

Bandit's avatar

As long as the CD doesn't bind with the iron in the water. I guess it might work.

MarshaGail's avatar

Never use tap water - distilled or spring is best & never use metal.

MarshaGail's avatar

Yikes! Please B very careful as it's easy2overdose them.

Eric Rohland's avatar

I’m curious why you use CD drops activated and then added to water, rather than using the CD drops that turn to gas and is dissolved into the water creating CDS. The later is much easer on the stomach and is what Andreas Kackler has suggested. If you are curious about the method type in your search -Andreas Kackler CDS YouTube- and you will see the

Method.

Happy New Year and thank you for the post.

maria b's avatar

It is easier on the stomach because it’s about half the strength. Mms1 is full strength.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

exactly and use only HCL not citric acid

MarshaGail's avatar

Better book is by Dr. Stanley Jacob et al: The Miracle if MSM The Natural Solution for Pain. Or website/Forum JimHumble.com

Karla Elvis's avatar

I am going to start the CD protocol today; I have no health concerns other than Afib, and I am largely asymptomatic with that. Whitecoats wanted to put me on thinners, beta blockers, etc but I said NO, as my Echocardiogram shows a structurally sound heart and I have no co-morbidities. I walk 7-10 miles/day, row 4000 meters and do other exercise without problems. The Afib started a bit over a year ago when I fell on my treadmill, hitting hard directly on my chest... I believe that this "blunt force trauma" has something to do with my Afib. No rupture of my diaphragm, but likely bruising on everything (I weigh 105 lbs).... I'll post updates as I move along. If anyone has related experience with Afib, please let me know - thanks to Curious and Dr. Yoho for providing us with powerful information so that we can take charge of our health!

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I would get on twice daily topical magnesium and take DMSO orally at least a teaspoon five days a week if I were you. the first to improve your A fib and the second to substitute for blood thinners

Carol Louise's avatar

I love that you are writing about this topic. I likewise have been interested in MMS but also cautious. Thank you, Dr. & Curious. Your service is greatly appreciated

JS's avatar

Thank you both very much. Dr. Yoho and Curious Outlier for sharing such good advice with all of us. Happy New Year with many blessings to both of you.