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Here's the search engine story:

There are many search engines. To my knowledge, all are window dressing. The first component of search is "spidering" or "crawling" the web. That's visiting every page of every billion plus sites on the web. Moments after starting, some pages that were just crawled have had content changed, so it's a continuous daunting task. When I started in tech (pre google), there were directories like yahoo and some fledgling search engines like alta vista. There were not even 50,000 web sites then. So as google evolved and grew massively with the web's massive growth, they became the defacto crawler. Any search engine I know of (99% sure including bing) use google's crawl data, which they make available for free (I believe to skirt anti-trust laws) because the crawling task is almost impossible for anyone else to spin up with the size of today's web.

HOWEVER!!! However, google in providing free crawl data, are not restricted from censoring, manipulating, or filtering the crawled data they provide. So, to answer your question, it will be very hard to find a search engine, even ones that want to be unfiltered and transparent, from not having manipulated or missing results. They are starting out with "bad data." That's why I said "window dressing."

This is where Steve Kirsch, fully understanding this and what is being censored, could step up and do some good. Don't hold your breath.

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wow I thought there were a few that were not beholden to Google

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Even Bing is significantly better than Google in my experience

Mojeek – The only true search engine (rather than metasearch engine) that has its own crawler and index (based in the UK).

https://www.mojeek.com/

Put in " JFK conspiracy" into mojeek and see how different the results are to almost any other search engine

YaCy – A decentralized, open source, peer-to-peer search engine

https://yacy.net/index.html

Personally I think Yandex is significantly better than Google if not perfect

AVG browser let me get to websites in Russia even when the US tried to block them all in the early days of the Russian Ukrainian invasion

Which browser do you use currently?

Brave or Firefox?

Braves default search is significantly better than Google

https://search.brave.com/

https://yandex.com/

https://www.goodgopher.com/

https://countersearch.net/

https://www.startpage.com/

https://swisscows.com/en

https://www.4conservative.com/

https://4racism.org/pig/

Presearch is decentralized and pretty cool IMO

https://presearch.com/

https://www.corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-presearch/

Giga last is very cool imo

http://www.gigablast.com/index.html

Metasearch engines, like Searx and Metager, pull search results from hundreds of different sources, so they reflect a different set of biases from Google and Bing. Metasearch engines can be a bit clunky to use, but they’re an interesting option for anyone who wants to delve deeper into the possibilities of search.

https://searchengineland.com/google-search-big-tech-conspiracy-theories-382863

https://search.marginalia.nu/

https://search.disconnect.me/

https://newstral.com/en

https://metager.org/

https://www.itechpost.com/articles/110282/20220425/google-embraces-woke-culture-will-now-flagged-using-politically-incorrect.htm

Why Google Made the NSA

Inside the secret network behind mass surveillance, endless war, and Skynet

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/08/no_author/google-made-nsa-2/

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/07/no_author/a-complete-list-of-alternatives-to-the-google-search-engine/

https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/10-meta-search-engines-reviewed-and-compared.html

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Here's some more

https://resulthunter.com/

Formerly

Searchconservative.com

SearchFree - The world's first conservative and libertarian search engine

https://searchfree.link/

You.com

Billed as an AI search engine you control

I did this a little over a year ago

Searching “holocaust is a hoax” in various search engines and ranking the first result from a “holocaust denial” site:

Google: 46th Organic Result

Yahoo: 2nd Organic Result

Bing: 2nd Organic Result

Yandex: 1st Organic Result

DuckDuckGo: 4th Organic Result

Searching “vaccines cause autism” in various search engines and ranking the first “anti-vaccination” result:

Google: >50th result

Yahoo: 19th Organic Result

Bing: 16th Organic Result

Yandex: 1st Organic Result

DuckDuckGo: 1st Organic Result

https://www.technewsworld.com/story/free-speech-uncensored-browser-launched-for-conservatives-176733.html

It's called " Tusk " browser

https://www.rambler.ru/

Another good one is exalead

http://www.exalead.com/search/web/

Newslookup let's you search just news

https://www.newslookup.com/

onelook.com is a very cool super dictionary

Million short is cool bc it lets you filter out very popular websites

https://millionshort.com/

Faganfinder offers lots of different search engines to choose from

https://www.faganfinder.com

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I use yandex the Russian search engine

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