Malone is an egomaniac- that I am sure of - but now I see him for what he really is, an asset for the American intelligence apparatus. It's all making so much sense now.
At first I wasn't going to "like" your comment because calling Malone an asset seemed a stretch. But after reading more, it does indeed make sense now.
The idea is to divide the movement and Malone has enough loyal followers that he can do that. The idea is also to send a message to any dissenters from Malone orthodoxy: argue with him and he'll break your kneecaps.
All along, Malone has been blind to the imminent threat not of global warming, but of the theory of warming catastrophe which is completely false. However, this is a key theory in the implementation of the Great Reset and this assumed premise is shot throughout Schwab's recent two books (at least), and virtually its sole moral justification.
Climate catastrophe-- emergency measures-- track/trace carbon footprints--- social credit scores and bingo, we're in the totalitarian dictatorship. Throw in a few more pathogens that came not from biolabs but from a disastrously warming world and the plan is complete.
Yet Malone has not once pointed out this trajectory.
I think Malones connections into the dark underbelly are a huge cause for concern. He still refers to these people as his colleagues and I don't see him being destroyed in any way shape or form other than on social media and from a few people changing his Wikipedia around. Others involved in this movement have lost their license to practice as well as there are livelihoods. This guy is still doing interviews about his horse breeding to wealthy women. And I still cannot get over the fact that he got the shot knowing the technology behind it because he developed it.
I agree, he looks like, at least, controlled opposition, and more probably, a knowing bad actor. He is probably like many others who have a status quo investment which they seem unable to entertain critique of, so have tantrums when this investment is rigorously challenged. His criticism of Peter A. McCullough MD is quite telling, because Peter is one of many rightly challenging one of the major pillars supporting this "medical" scam. That being, Pasteur's Germ Theory nonsense, thus virology, and all the nonsense about natural and man-made genetic modification of these alleged pathogens called viruses. There are Billions to Trillions of fiat currency tokens, and associated power, at risk if that corrupt Ponzi narrative collapses, and some "elites" have clearly already caused the destruction of critics and people providing honest solutions, including by murder; this looks like more of the same.
After reading the details he offers, I am feeling less sympathy for the Breggins as it sure appears to me he has been defamed. They don't seem to be the harmless little "old couple down the street" . . .
I will hang fire and let the situation settle a bit before backing either of them.
Quite agree. Malone's claims have merit as do Breggins. Not sue why the situation has devolved to the court. One hopes a mediation session might resolve their differences. There are elements of truth in Desmet's notions of a mass in sort of hysteria. We have all seen that irrationality. Desmet enjoys book revenue and gains some status. Not clear what Malone's gains might be other than notoriety.
Fame is an insatiable appetite, but securing a proper legacy in the history of medicine is what is driving him, which in itself can push a person “over the edge.” I prefer to think of Malone as having lost his way instead of being a litigious jerk with the goal of draining $25,000,000 from the Breggins.
Would it surprise you, though? When I asked him to at least look over Karen Kingstons stuff he told me he would not because hes not a conspiracy theorist. Forgive me if I'm wrong but that's not how science is supposed to work.
'Me a control all beware' is anagram of Robert Wallace Malone, his full name.
Under the circumstances seems reasonable. He will say some reasonable things but needs much discernment. Even the Devil tells some truths to wheedle his way in.
Thank you Stephanie. I have a feeling I'm replying to the next Whitney Webb just as soon as you expand your profound insights beyond the substack comment section. 😏
I'm just so disappointed that Dr. Malone would do this.
First of all, I only tangentially heard that Dr. Breggin and Dr. Malone didn't get along. But I think Malone is extremely over-estimating how far and strongly Breggin's criticisms of Malone have taken hold. Proof - I'm subscribed to dozens of substacks, and have been reading them since Nov 2021. I don't recall one instance where Breggin's criticisms of Malone's were mentioned. Even on the other discussion boards where everyone is critical of the covid vaccine, I haven't seen them mentioned anywhere there either, and these are places where all the critical news/studies/commentaries on the covid vaccines are found, so I would say they are representative of the audience who might come across the Breggin-Malone beef. So I can't see how there is any material hit to Malone's reputation or standing. If anything, all of the New York Times and other corporate press articles present far greater examples of anything resembling defamation against Malone.
Let's look at what the lawyer states Malone has suffered: "in addition to the pain, suffering, insult, embarrassment, humiliation, and injury to his personal and professional reputations, publication of the Statements caused Dr. Malone to lose business and income, lost public appearances due to perceived reputational risk, and other special damages, including career damage, including loss of future employment, loss of future earnings, impaired and diminished earning capacity"
Reputationally, as I already said in the beginning, I don't think there's any case for that. And which public appearances did Malone miss because of Breggin? He seemed to be at the most recent conferences. If he DID get banned from some, it's not going to be because of Breggin, but because of some clueless MSM article that had a wide reach. And none of those are going to cite Breggin, they'll cite some vax-pushing hack.
This one for instance, is entirely a philosophical disagreement between the two:
“The synonymous concepts of mass formation, mass hypnosis, and mass psychosis have an obvious damaging impact on the international health freedom movement and on the cause of liberty everywhere. These concepts take our eyes off the totalitarian global predators who are taking
over and exploiting humanity. They restrain us from charging these predators with criminal conspiracy if we win the battle with them. The pernicious effects of the Desmet/Malone ideology came fully into light with the recent publication of Desmet’s The Psychology of Totalitarianism and Malone’s continuing efforts in support of mass psychosis.”
How is that defamatory in any way? There are going to be strong disagreements over any differing sociological views. They basically have a disagreement on the nature of evil actors. Man, that's a debate that goes back millennia.
Again, another philosophical disagreement that is listed as a defamatory statement:
"Whether Desmet or Malone consciously intended it, their ideology has seriously harmful effects similar to a psyops — a psychological operation — aimed at paralyzing the health freedom movement and freedom movements worldwide.”
That's again a disagreement. Activists are going to have disagreements over theory - for example, is using the corporate social media such as Facebook beneficial for outreach, or is it 'playing into their hands.' Such disagreements can get heated, but how this approaches defamation is beyond me.
Another disagreement:
"“Desmet and Malone’s [mass formation psychosis] concept deflect, discourage and undermine attempts to place the blame directly on global predators who have been committing mass murder under the guise of COVID-19.”
Again, that's a wholly philosophical debate. You could write a book about the strength about one view (Breggin's) vs another (Malone's).
The only thing that remotely has any merit is whether Malone is "deep state" or "controlled opposition" or something. The thing is I've seen hundreds of people called that - I've never seen any lawsuits for being called that ever. Even people who are anti-deep state have been called "deep state actors" so I can't see how this is a serious and materially damaging hit on one's reputation.
Hmm. I am glad you posted the details. The implication that Malone was doing a psyop and could be deep state seem irresponsible if not defamatory precisely because Breggin has such clout. That sort of accusation has harmed a lot of people badly. It also comes across as ego-based (my theory is better than yours). I believe Peter should apologize publicly and seek dismissal of the suit.
The key point of contention is: was mass formation during Covid deliberately induced or spontaneous? Mass formation is real; I don't think anyone argues about that. But Desmet and Malone are providing cover, saying that this was largely spontaneous and that people like Schwab and Gates took advantage of it, as they were themselves largely captured by this mass formation. Desmet specifically says there was no conspiracy.
This is nonsense. Breggin pointed it out. The mass formation was deliberately, 100% induced. That was the point of Covid, wasn't it? Then the mechanisms that Desmet accurately described could kick in.
Malone has shown his true colors. No decent human being sues an elderly couple for $25 million because of a disagreement over spontaneous versus induced mass formation ... unless, that is, one wants to suppress the idea of "conspiracy" and warn others off that idea.
25 million dollars is an obscene amount of money and a waste of valuable time. Why would Malone want to tie himself to such a quagmire?
The thing is, being a "covid personality" isn't Malone's job. It's supposedly something he does in his spare time out of the "goodness of his heart"... Nothing the Breggins have done should affect his job in vaccine development (you are aware that he is still in the vaccine development business?)
I believe he has bigger aspirations and I do not fault him for that. He wants to lead, and his signature is integrity (see his latest article). Anyone who challenges his integrity (implying he is covert and dishonest) is defaming him. The 25 million seems to be a statement figure.
I have been with Peter Breggin since I discovered him almost 30 years ago. He is also a great leader. He should apologize for casting aspersions on Malone's character. That is what has Malone angry. I would be angry too. This may be difficult to understand for people that think only in terms of power and money.
To each his own. I even understand his anger; but to me a great leader earns his spot through the power of his character. Succumbing to anger through litigation is an aggressive power play and not something done by any leader I would want to follow. He should battle it out through the power of the pen and not attempt to financially ruin a couple in the twilight years of their lives.
Every single one of us should be questioning Malone's character after his lawsuit for $25 million against a man who has worked so hard for we, the people, for so many years. And, against pharma.
Breggin called out Desmet's nonsense, and that's really what it is. Breggin is absolutely correct. https://tinyurl.com/anxeyv8b Yet Malone still sticks with Desmet-- why? Surely he can see that Breggin is correct in his criticisms of Desmet?
Breggin would only need to be silenced if he were speaking the truth. Think about it.
Isn't Malone, unwittingly or not, doing exactly what pharma would like him to do to Breggin, a man who has poked pharma in the eye for years?
Exactly right! Malone is doing what big pharma would like him to do and appears that he is under the influence of the puppetmasters controlling big pharma; in every interview and article both Malone and Desmet typically downplay or outright deny that there was an elitist and globalist manipulation of the masses; the concept of mass formation serves the purpose of indoctrinating the masses even further by providing a psychological "excuse" for individual behavior that was in actuality based on ignorance, cowardice , fear and self preservation; in any case, mass formation is descriptive of the RESULT, not the CAUSE , the result of decades of cumulative indoctrination into group-think by those determined to "reset" the world order....and Covid was just another weapon in their arsenal designed to achieve that end.
How about questioning his motives of shilling for vax's most of his career? How about habing the idea of wanting fo develop mrna and alter/edit dna that God created? I believe thede were lawsuits fdom 2012 where the rx companies fought to own dna, and wede gdanted it because they showed mrna alters the original dna and so it's no longer the same.
You make good points but if you are open you might also see that Breggin's criticisms were ego-based and excessive. That happens to the best of us. Breggin is a great soldier but his zeal may have got the best of him here. I would like him to apologize and try to move on.
If Breggin is correct then his criticism aren't in fact excessive, are they? So that is the question: is Breggin correct? He certainly is about Desmet.
So if Breggin is right about Desmet and yet Malone still promotes Desmet and defends him, what does that say about Malone?
For those of you who have Desmet's book, have a look at the Sierpinski triangle Desmet introduces in chapter 8. Why? It's to prove to us that there is no manipulation, isn't it? Just as the Sierpinski triangle appears to be deliberately constructed, so too did High Covid appear to be deliberately constructed, according to Desmet. There was manipulation that was no manipulation; Desmet explicitly says there was only the appearance of conspiracy: hence the Sierpinski triangle.
So why does Malone promote Desmet? Once Breggin shows us the flaws we can see them, can't we? They're obvious. The Sierpinski triangle is a good example of Desmet's doublespeak and his seduction of making us believe there WAS manipulation but at the same time pulling the rug out from under that idea. This is devious.
Covid-19 manipulation: it was all just a Sierpinski triangle. An illusion of conspiracy but not a real conspiracy. Desmet is an apologist for the predators, is he not? And Malone is defending him.
All one has to do is read Desmet's work to understand that it's complete nonsense.
Totalitarianism requires censorship and surveillance. That's all. It doesn't require mass formation at all: the formation arises after the herding of people through fear, as we saw during the massive censorship during High Covid.
Even Desmet's allusions to Arendt's writing on totalitarianism fails since Desmet imagines that the masses gave rise to the terror of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia. This is absurd, and Arendt herself says that the masses went along, yes, but this was because of social and economic disruptions which had very clear objects (and were not, as Desmet claims, amorphous anxieties with no object.) But the masses did not create the terror of Nazi Germany or Stalin's Russia: they were subject to it, and this terror produced alienation and atomization even in the pre-totalitarian stages.
Ask yourself this: is it really true, as Desmet states, that prior to Covid we were all atomized and anxious, ripe for mass formation? Or did we instead go to ball games, concerts, colleges, parties, bars and restaurants and enjoy being with each other? Is it really true that most of us were mechanistic thinkers waiting for technological utopia, or did we all understand very clearly that life is far more than technology and that fulfillment comes from relationships with family and friends?
What can cause mass disruption is economic and social collapse, which began to happen during Covid. Then, yes, the masses might look for a leader, someone to get them out-- a new Hitler, perhaps. But this is NOT a psychological mechanism per se, it's economic and social conditions leading to anxiety and uncertainty.
Odd that Desmet says nothing of this and blames is all on we, the people, who are supposedly damaged by our propensity for blind mechanistic thinking.
Isn't it odd that the real beginnings of totalitarianism-- censorship-- are now in play on a large scale, but Desmet virtually ignores this? And isn't it odd that the solid foundation for totalitarianism-- censorship-- is now being used against someone speaking up against Desmet?
NOW, I understand why I had trepidations about him without anything concrete. I find it odd that there are some people you can "get vibes" from just through their writings.
Important, really important, to honor this. I stopped trusting him soon after I began reading him. Many reasons. Bit we only have one gut reaction and it is usually correct.
Desmet's theory angered me. I realize that was from cognitive dissonance since--in the case of the Covid hysteria--the concept of Mass Formation makes no sense.
Desmet's s theory has alternatively left me cold and at times seemed sensible. I see deeper and historic things at work while at the same time appreciating how well the idea of Mass Formation works to explain denial to those who don't like intellectual subjects. I also appreciate his awareness that it is a relatively small number of dissenters who help turn totalitarianism around. None of his ideas are terribly original.
I really don't know what this is all about, but I will tell you this: It was Dr. Peter Breggin's beautiful loving voice through his podcasts and his insightful book that gave me much needed hope when I had zero hope. I looked forward to each podcast - and I honestly felt loved by this man as his kindness came through. I will always be grateful to him for this - as well as the expose he and Ginger put forth in their book. Thank you Dr. Breggin for ALL you have done over the years. I also took his advice about what he and Ginger did when they were sick early on likely with this virus. My family used the iodine in a nasal and throat rinse, as well as other recommendations when we were stricken in September, 2021. We did not even need to call a doctor, though we were plenty sick.
Their awesome book is underappreciated. It's not just good research (like The Real Anthony Fauci) but digging into psychology and spirituality, and calls for a more loving moral world. Now, if you look at it, suing somebody for $25 million because they feel offended is petty and soulless.
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Just my two cents worth, but I find several things troubling about this situation. 1: Recall that Malone was late to join in the health freedom movement, not raising his head above ground until December 2021. That’s almost 2 years into the plandemic, after brave doctors such as Breggin, Kory, McCullough, Marik, etc. stood on the front lines taking direct fire, risking their livelihoods from the beginning. 2: In his December 2021 appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, Malone bragged about his ties to military and intelligence agencies, even “outing” a CIA operative in Wuhan. He also claimed to have lost business and had his license threatened because of his appearance at an event in Hawaii in the fall of 2021 - one year BEFORE the Breggins discussed Mathias Desmet. 3: Malone and his wife are pals with Bill Gates and the rest of the philo-monopolists, who have likely never heard of Peter and Ginger Breggin. Therefore, they would be unmoved by any perceived slight Malone claims to have suffered. His reputation is firmly entact, as he still retains his advisory position with the NIH. 4: Senator Ron Johnson has stated that, in the Second Opinion Testimony (January 2022), the original plan was to open the session with testimony from the Vax injured witnesses. Their stories would grab everyone’s attention right from the start, then the medical experts were to testify in the afternoon. But the schedule was flipped at the last minute, as someone new took control of the event. According to Johnson, the change weakened the impact of the Vax injured victims and undermined the gravity of the forum. The only person new to the event, and the movement, in 2022 was Robert Malone.
Malone desperately wants to control the narrative and lashes out at anyone who questions his qualifications to be the voice of health freedom. Don’t forget, he never said that the jabs are dangerous to everyone - he took the path of least resistance, advocating protecting children, but not all children. He continued to advocate jabbing seniors, the immuno-compromised, and vulnerable children- just like a good eugenicist would.
Lulu, Diana West did a good dive into Malone back in January 2022. She also links to other researchers who have done significant deep dives into the Malones and their connections. Lots of rabbit holes to follow.
I am defending Malone but I can see some merit in this claim. He needs to get more coaching to check his ego. I do not see any nefarious intent. A bit too much ego, yes.
It's true that we shouldn't assume to understand what lies in a man's heart without knowing him. Just saying there's lots of activity around him which should give one reason to question his role in the "resistance "
That's extremely important! Thank YOU! My view is, Malone infiltrated the entire 'covid response' together with his 'military bodies' (he calls them literally this way, whoever it may be!), in order to bring the 'truthful' viewpoint to everyone, assured as the inventor of the very technology which NOW KILLS MILLIONS!!!!
It should be Breggin who sues Malone, not the opposite, and not for millions, but BILLIONS, which then can be distributed to all the families of the deceased, who BELIEVED they are dealing with VACCINE and NOT gene modification treatment, with lethal consequences. Malone, the inventor, double vaxxed, still alive and thriving, everywhere on news, that's quite a good advertisement for the lethal concoctions, coming directly from the inventor! Oh, btw. his first 'opposition' against the injections came out only AFTER starting the injections on children. He didn't oppose the inventions when all the parents were injected, and DYING! WHY?
Who is going to take the parent-less children now? His military bodies?
Yes, lot of sci-fi in my point of view, but it adds up, for me.
It adds up very well, extremely well stated! I have always said that Malone is lacking in transparency and most likely is not acting as an independent voice but as an agent for those who are controlling him; he was probably chosen as the one to launch the lawsuit against the Breggins because he has developed a considerable following of supporters which puts his "cause" in a good light; I was once one of them but no longer and others I know appear to have lost any sense of critical discernment and feel good that they belong to his "club".
Thank you for the confirmation of the 'making sense' opinion. On other substack post I also mentioned the other important TIME issue with Malone's sudden appearance. Here it us if you like to consider reading:
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That's why I NEVER signed up for the letters from this criminal called Malone... It was clear that from his VERY FIRST appearance on the dark horse, in June or July 2021, when still not too many people were injected, that his main mission was to say to millions, oh I invented that mRNA technique, I got my 2 injections and you see, I'm still alive!!! He never even considered to tell everyone, it is NOT A 'vaccine', but GENE THERAPY! For that alone, I do believe he and the news misled all simple people immensely. And that costed peoples lives, as we see MILLIONS BY NOW!!! Peter, SUE MELONE, not for millions, but for BILLIONS...
Speaking of "SUDDEN" appearances, look at the timeline and chronology of Mattias Desmet. He VERY "suddenly" appeared with his scientifically-unfounded theory and Malone started championing it (rebranding it as "Mass Psychosis") everywhere he spoke -- and Malone, notably, is everywhere. Looks like a well-financed and well-orchestrated Info-Op . The lawsuit is merely a "Divide & Conquer" strategy to distract & weaken the Medical Freedom movement, to promote the Desmet unscientific theories that relieve totalitarian psychopathic leadership from the personal responsibility & accountability of their evil choices (after all, we dumb proles are merely "manifesting" them out of our own fears), and to silence & crush a HEROIC 85 year old Harvard-educated Psychiatrist who has devoted his entire life to honorably and at great personal / professional expense to fighting for humanity: Dr. Breggin led the fight to make lobotomies illegal; to end psychological brain surgeries,' to stop disgraceful abuse of using black children in State care as involuntary test subjects; to stop the use of electro-shock therapy; and to stop the horrific over-prescription of psychotropic drugs. What has Malone been doing for most of his professional career? But now, when Malone claims to FINALLY have switched to the side of Light & Goodness, he chooses to sue an 85 year old HERO of humanity?! This is the definitive "tell" as they say in poker. Malone has revealed he is not playing for us nor for our side in the fight against the BioSecurity State and in the fight against the Global Predators.
thank you, that's another issue! nobody knows who got exactly what, except for Pfizer/Mod-ERNA.. Just wonder, did people who decided to get jabbed, needed an appointment? Until then, it would be enough time to prepare the 'right' vial..
You're very fortunate. My 42 yr old brother in law isn't. And most I know are dealing sith many health issues, they didn't have prior to the rat juice. Everyrhing from cancsr to migraines, vertigo, etc.
In the headline paragraph, it says to find out why malone is worked up, we should read breggins.com. seems a bit biased.
It's unfortunate that people allow their emotions to get in the way of their objectives. But both of these combatants have been under continuous assault for a lo g time. Probably some PTSD involved. The rest of us should remain focused on the outcomes both Malone and Breggins want. United we stand, divided we fall.
I disagree. We need to understand what this dispute is truly about and look at what Malone is trying to do. He's actively working to suppress the idea of conspiracy during Covid-19, which Desmet explicitly says did not happen. Breggin knows better. So does RFK, Jr. And, so do we.
Now Malone is doing the equivalent of breaking Breggin's kneecaps to warn others what will happen to them if they entertain ideas of Covid conspiracy.
He may be trying to keep the movement credible. This is how we confront that issue:
Important statement about conspiracies
Since we are critical thinkers we are very careful about which beliefs we ingest. All of us are constantly bombarded with unproven theories from questionable sources of information. The process of cultural secession from dominant narratives can challenge one’s social moorings and open the secessionist’s mind to all sorts of anti-establishment theories. We tread carefully into these murky waters and use our critical thinking skills to arrive at our beliefs.
Cultural succession is word salad for WOKE in the real world of science. Critical thinking is what we were robbed of when Big Pharma, Big Media, and Big Government colluded to keep us in the dark. 🙈🙉🙊
Gee, I guess we're supposed to be impressed with your fancy schmancy ten-dollar words and syntax. Ooh-Aahh. . . .
Let's keep it simple: If you are SO concerned about "unproven theories" perhaps you could enlighten us all as to the SCIENTIFIC FOUNDATIONS of the Mattias Desmet theories Malone has been pushing incessantly. Desmet is a psychologist/psycotherapist. He is neither a trained psychiatrist NOR a trained historian. Malone is a virologist. Dr. Peter Breggin is a Harvard-educated MD / psychiatrist. He has much greater standing than either Desmet or Malone to critique a psychological theory. And BTW that's ALL it is -- unless you can provide the credible SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to show Desmet's theories, so aggressively championed by Malone, are anything more than merely unsubstantiated theories offered by a Freudian psychotherapist. Kind of like Freudian Penis Envy. But please feel free to provide the SCIENTIFIC FOUNDATIONS of THAT theory while you're at it. We all have our dictionary apps poised to look up your polysyllabic vocabulary. C'mon, help Malone keep our movement credible. Protect it from us dumb clucks who don't know how to think critically.
Unless you want biological information a psychologist is as credible as a shrink. Even more so because they work with people and take an interest in their humanity. Shrinks are bioreductionists who just hand out prescriptions for various drugs.
If you fight your own team, you'll lose. If you want to know malones issues, the court filings are available online. But I have no more interest in his neuroses than I do yours, only whether he's an effective fighter. He's done more to win the fight than anyone.
I read the court filings. Yes, Breggin said some bad things about Malone.
Malone is a fighter ... well, he publishes a heck of a lot for a guy constantly traveling and speaking. But what's the end goal of all this writing? He's gotten tons of followers, yes. But for me this is key: those followers now believe the Desmet line, which is emphatically that there was no conspiracy. Desmet in chapter 8 of his book introduces the Sierpinski triangle to "prove" to us that what looks like a conspiracy isn't a conspiracy at all. Desmet in one breath says there was definitely manipulation (so Malone's followers can be deceived that Desmet is against the Reset) and in the next breath that the manipulation was due to ideology, not planning: mass formation is ultimately due to an amorphous ideology that captures us all and no one, no one at all, has deliberately induced this formation. There is no grand conspiracy.
It's an extremely insidious theory and Malone's support of it is a "tell." As I see it, Desmet and Malone are both working for a vision of the Great Reset that blames the administrative state that's been captured by ideology, with no Great Reset conspiracy behind it. This is EXACTLY what Desmet is saying.
This tactic allows the Great Reset to continue working in the background, doesn't it? We go after the administrative state but the real players are free to plan their next moves. Who cares if a couple of Faucis get shuffled around or if Walensky gets fired?
This is a long game. Track and trace, monitor and manage is the end goal. A couple of "emergencies" and the whole thing could be set in motion but Malone and Desmet say, not to worry, it's no conspiracy, it's just that damn administrative state. When they tell us to snap out of our mass formation it'll be too late.
Preserve freedom and individual self-determination. It seems to me that Malone is likely working to dismantle these, for a "greater good" that people like him and Langan have decided is best for us. Either that or Malone is way out of his depth in the philosophy department, but judging from his writing (if it is even his) this isn't the case.
Yes, I'm speculating. But in any case, I can no longer trust the man.
Bottom line: Desmet's philosophy is insidious: of that, there's no question. Read it carefully. Breggin is correct. Any support of Desmet undermines the truth of what really happened.
Doesn't matter if there's a conspiracy. First priority is make the oppression stop. We'll identify the causes and punish the perpetrators later, at the new Nuremberg trials. Making it stop requires convincing more people to stop being victims. They're learning fast. The same psychology Desmet attributed to the fall can also be adapted to create the recovery. As Desmet generalizes, we only need about 5% in a noisy resistance to swing the 65% complacents to defeat the 35% oppressors. We shouldn't get hung up on the details. Nor personalities. It's not about Desmet, or Malone, only about me and those I care about.
If we focus on protecting individual self-determination and medical freedom for everyone and informed consent to medication with no penalties for refusing to consent, then I agree.
I'm concerned that Malone really is a Trojan Horse and really is manipulating us for ends that he and his buds are hiding from us. This is of course speculation; but since he's suing Breggin for an outrageous $25 million I have to scratch my head and ask what's that all about? Breggin was a warrior long, long before Malone came on the scene. He's done a great deal for we, the people against pharma, which is now gleeful that Breggin is being sued-- by Malone no less!
If Malone doesn't back down won't that be a huge tell?
What if acknowledging the conspiracy is necessary to stop the oppression? If there isn't one we should rule it out since different methods will be required. Like a physical sickness. "It shouldn't matter if its anemia or thyroid problems. I just want to feel better!" Or car problems. "Why do you need to look under the hood? Who cares if it's the engine? Just make the clunking stop already."
And yet Malone supports Desmet and Desmet clearly says there was no Covid conspiracy, that it gives us comfort to think there is because we want to try to make sense of what happened. This is what Desmet says.
What's Malone up to, then? Is there a conspiracy or not? Or is he having it both ways so that he can slip Langan's eugenics in on the side?
Does Malone actually believe the earth has an overpopulation problem and the people need to be deceived in order to do the right thing population-wise? Because as his buddy Langan says, "people are stupid."
Who in hell is Robert Malone? A man who sues an 86-year-old man for $25 million merely for the words he said has very questionable ethics, to say the least. But at least he has Integrity, or so he tells us.
He has patents for early technology. But it doesn't matter who was first, does it? He didn't make anyone take the vax, and has vociferously argued against it. If your strategy is to demean allies, you're doomed to fail.
Actually its 25.3 mil plus interest and fees. And a jury will propably add punitive damages. And the defendant's age is irrelevant. If he's 186, he still can't defame others.
I don't think Malone is interested in Desmet personally, but agrees with his research. The issue isn't Desmet or Malone, it's mass psychology. Competent critics should deal with the issue, not the personalities. But, that's harder for some people.
Malone has worked for the conspirators, so probably knows more about their tactics than most people, if not their motives. His writings show pretty clear intent to oppose them.
Tom Renz posted a link to tucker Carlson interview w desmet. Desmet describes politicians as being in servitude to the mass mob like the rest of us. The elites control the deep state bureaucrats, who use propaganda to manipulate the masses. 30% support the conspiracy, 65% recognize the scam but meekly follow the loudest combatants. If the 5% speak out against the tyrants, the 65% sheep will shift and the conspiracy will fail. Malone has been famously outspoken. Those who try to silence him are supporting the elites, usually oblivious (a.k.a., "useful idiots"), sometimes agents of the conspirators.
"The elites control the deep state bureaucrats, who use propaganda to manipulate the masses."
That isn't what Desmet says, and if it is, it's definitely not what he says in his book.
If the elites are controlling through propaganda then that isn't a spontaneous mass formation at all. Desmet says there was no Covid conspiracy and that it only appears that way because of the mechanism of mass formation.
So which is it? Elites control propaganda and use propaganda to create fear and that leads to mass formation, or the fear spontaneously arises during the mass formation?
Read what Breggin says and the distinction will be clear.
It's what desmet told tucker. Very good interview.
Desmet has consistently said the herd always needs a catalyst to drive their reactions. It's never spontaneous. It might seem that way to those who don't pay attention.
Desmet is having it both ways because his theory makes no sense and so he has to backtrack.
Do you honestly believe Covid-19 was all just spontaneous fear due to ideology? No planning, no censorship, no lockstep lockdowns that destroyed economies and livelihoods and lives? No 24/7 news coverage and brutal censorship of doctors who disagreed? No planned suppression of life-saving drugs, just spontaneously everyone decided to withhold safe treatments?
PTSD isn't constant, it comes and goes. It's not a condition, it's a coping mechanism. It's treatable, but treatment is complicated while the combat that caused it continues.
In reading Malone, I caught a vibe of self-importance of bloated ego which tipped me off. He does indeed to be a perfect sort of Trojan horse. There are many. This has been well planned for centuries. Develop a sense of health skepticism. Lots of snake oil salesmen out there. Obama threw lots of pretty words around too.
The movie has 10 million views and growing exponentially. This is more than any one else. Does the controlled opposition object to this as uncontrollable? Does he wish to use the 25M to purchase SubStack and what if someone I know bid 26? Is he doing DARKA’s bidding? Is he under threat? We don’t know the full story. For him it's a not a good look. Time will be telling all and there will be no hiding for anyone.
The fact that Malone wore a tie with a pattern of supposed coronaviruses always irked me. Where did he get that anyway? Struck me as kind of sinister. Also, his "Most interesting man" ad was super weird. Also, he continues to work in vaccine development.
One piece of the puzzle alone doesn't make a complete picture, but when it's all together, along with this frivolous lawsuit, I see a deep state picture emerging.
I always hated Malone ...he's a snake and I could see it immediately. Dr. Breggin and Ginger are heros and this guy's a fucktard ...he's arrogant and just looks like a mf weasel pos. Deep state still strong in his blood ..
This asshole is fucking with 2 people that have helped save so many ..wtf has this prick done other than act a fool and spout bs. Breggin is my favourite doctor and I don't even know htf asswipe Malone has the audacity to show his ugly ass mug in public. THANK YOU Dr. BREGGIN AND GINGER 🙏...coming from someone who's been tortured and abused by the medical mafia "cabal" to the extent of them hijacking my (entire) life completely ...*they ruined my life with a fraudulent lie and have caused so much trauma and pain. I am a woman whom was an absolutely destroyed child ..I was exploited ... caused immense pain and humiliation...terror...multiple assaults ...had cruel and non consensual highly illegal experiments forced upon me...the list of heart wrenching abuses goes on. ..including mkultra at (ROYAL VICTORIA REGIONAL HEALTH CENTRE) IN BARRIE ONTARIO CANADA 🇨🇦 this is an evil evil "hospital" ...and the horrors I've experienced will never ever be forgotten or forgiven...they know they are harming many...and they enjoy this thoroughly ...sexuallly and otherwise sadistic ..perpetrators of horrendous crime...don't enter this place under any circumstance. I personally speak of Dr.Breggin and Ginger in such high regard and tell people this man is my hero. And Malone wtf have you done??? Other than "create" the disgusting tech that's fucking murdering everyone while uou smirk and grin from your smug pos face. You re attacking the righteous the ones who are good...fuck you Malone. Screw with Gods chosen and you ll pay... you will...you ll pay. Breggin is tough as nails and you re a cowardess pos Malone. I didn't even need to know anything about this creep...I could see it all plainly on his face ...oh did I mention I hate this bitches face??😅...
I love Breggin's courage ...huge heart and any honorable endeavors...as well as Ginger's ...and I fuckin hate you Malone. Come sue me.
Apologies on my behalf if just saying holy shit🤔...I feel you re a fuckin cunty bitch tho possibly and I'm totally done with anyone that's uhmmm in opposition of truth or wtf wanna say about wtf I've endured so...donno wtf you meant but ...bring it if you have a mf problem...with my fucking sharing ...and exposing corruption..😆
Wow. This is sad and troubling. Malone needs to let it go and the Breggins need to stop being all or nothing. Global predation and mass formation work together.
G_d bless you, Dr. Yoho. You have some real trolls in your Comments section. Thanks for bringing the receipts.
I was so amazed when you repeatedly referred to the book "Political Ponerology" in your podcast. Usually only the few remaining old Cold Warriors and their former students know of that extraordinary book. Perhaps you could educate your readers & listeners further into how to identify the propaganda & agitprop techniques used heavily over the past century. It could help them identify the operatives & agents not only among ostensible "elites" and "authority figures" in our own movements, but also among the social media commenters. There are clearly a few notable ones in your own Comments section and their techniques & slippery re-calibrations are transparent as daylight once people have been trained to know what the techniques are.
Yes, global predation and mass formation work together. That's not the dispute. The dispute is almost entirely over whether mass formation during Covid was induced or spontaneous. Breggin says induced. Desmet says spontaneous.
Breggin is correct, period. Read what he says about Desmet then read Desmet's defense, which actually supports what Breggin is saying.
That seems like dancing on the head of a pin. Only 30% of people get brainwashed. Why are they brainwashable? They lack resilience and have a strong need to be cool. Breggin has his guns solely on the elites and the practitioners. He always has. That is his signature. But for every Red Guard there is a dissident. Maybe there are fewer of them but they are there. I find Desmet's approach empowering.
Desmet says there was no conspiracy: Covid lunacy was spontaneous.
Do you really believe that? That 24/7 news coverage of Covid, suppression of safe drugs, censoring dissident doctors was all just spontaneous lunacy? That medical journals throwing up bogus studies to prove hydroxychloroquine was unsafe and didn't work was just a bit of lunacy? That health departments and pharmacies working against the distribution of a drug used safely for decades and used in very modest doses to prevent serious Covid was all just spontaneous lunacy?
Anyone who understands what happened with hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and other safe drugs knows that the suppression of these drugs was carefully orchestrated and not just spontaneous mass formation.
Has anyone said suppression of those drugs was not orchestrated? I believe Desmet posits that totalitarians create Mass Formation does he not? Certain societal conditions exist, loneliness, free floating anxiety, anger at the system such that the stage is ripe for totalitarian influence.
No. In chapter 8 of Desmet's book he asserts that mass formation is driven not by conspiracy but by ideology. Everyone is captured by the formation, even the elite who take advantage of it.
In other words: large-scale psychological manipulation of the population through the use of professional social psychologists and social engineers, etc., does not exist. Do you believe that?
Desmet says there was no conspiracy or did he say there was no carefully orchestrated and only top down micro-management of a phenomenon to depopulate the world? We have no proof yet that this was a depopulation scheme. Yeadon says it was but he provides only circumstantial evidence.
Not to add gas to this fire, but both can be true - induced or spontaneous. Not that I take spontaneous literally as many seem to do. The pandemic mafia has been at work for a very long time imagining a fatality rate ~ 30% (+/-) which SARs-2 was not anywhere near that. The mafia implemented many of the features needed for mass death. In this process fear was engendered via the Trusted news Initiative.
Our military in preparation for the next war involving biologics needed a rapid vaccine platform and dreamed that a mRNA might be the way so has funded that. Errors in Wuhan created the opportunity to produce that mRNA vaccine. We might forgive a vaccine that protects against a high IFR with considerable damage along the way but would be less tolerant of such a vaccine for a low IFR. In this pandemic the vaccine has proved less than promised.
Then we have the globalists wishing to conquer the civilized world attempting to captialize on the new normal. They play into the hands of the big government types who wish control everything themselves. Both angling to accumulate riches for themselves. All with the backdrop of human greed. Nothing new to any of that. And they both want to prey on citizens consumed by fear.
So yep induced but crowd dynamics of public hysteria wishing to be relieved of that irrational fear - spontaneous combustion.
Perhaps. And perhaps this was all planned to induce fear and get people to the ultimate goal: vaccine passports = road to track/trace system.
I believe the goal of track/trace and monitor/manage everyone on the planet is the end goal. Think of the $$$! And the control.
I do not believe that the public goes around with baggage of anxiety waiting to be tapped into and channeled into a mass formation. People have normal anxiety about jobs, kids, school, etc. Normal stuff. Left alone, we're fine and have been fine. It's only when we layer on irrational and fictional fears, like that of non-existent CO2 catastrophe or a virus whose lethality is greatly exaggerated and for which early treatment is deliberately withheld, do we get a mass formation "psychosis." Then people start acting crazy yet so many want to say "look at those stupid people wearing masks still" as if they, and not the manipulation on high, are the problem.
A lot of people are busy or have other interests and believe they can trust "the news." That doesn't make them bad people. Yet Malone/Desmet say in essence that it's their own damn fault.
I see the mass hysteria is the degree that people accepted limitations on their freedom rights. While a short period is something most would accept, the extended period was excessive, but people went along with it. It's that acceptance by most that I see as a mass formation. Given that perpetual fear has some limiting factors (China 3 years?), we tolerated it for much too long. In spite of red states opening up, others demonized the effort and many blue states continued for way too long.
And when you pointed them to articles and videos saying otherwise they called you a "conspiracy theorist" and laughed at you. Even if these were put out by icons like Fauci, the CDC or Tedros. "We can never go back to normal."
Except that the "acceptance" wasn't mass formation but individual cowardice and the willingness to give up personal identity and sovereignty for the mental and physical slavery promised by "you will own nothing and be happy"; well, we will own nothing alright but we won't be happy!
I read Dr Malone's substack and not the Breggins', except for this tome.
It appears there is great resentment by Malone for the Breggins' statements but I have no idea what exactly those statements were or why he objected to them and this tome makes no specific mention of the actual details in the controversy.
I have to say it is a cryin' shame that people, basically on the same side, intent on helping humanity are being so obtuse to each other. Certainly, suing for $25 million is obtuse but I have not heard what or how Malone's resentment could be that LARGE. WHAT in the world did the Breggins say?!
EDIT, now 3 mo later:
Eventually I did find out what they were and realized that, to my estimation, Dr Malone went way too far in his offensive actions to prevent Breggins disagreement(which is all it was) with his point of view. Although I am still subscribed to Malone's stack(no refunds), I will not re-up. Mainly, only because he appears to react overly to this slight. The slight I believe is only that: He believes and reinforces Dezmet that it is the fault of the receivers of propaganda being influenced because they cannot resolve the cognitive dissonance of the propaganda vs reality and Breggins believes in placing the blame where it belongs-- at the feet of the real perps. [Jim Reagan, below, gives a better rendition!] . . . I agree with Jim and the Breggins.
I cannot recall; will try to edit again later, but a lady financial consultant, had a great review of this kerfuffle that called a spade a spade and, to me, settles any debate.
They criticized the notion of Mass Formation because they believe it lets the global predators off the hook. It does not. But there must be more to get Malone this upset.
No he does not. Malone has been very clear that he believes in the global conspiracy. He has written about that consistently. The question remains whom are the powers and how are they doing it? How did they execute this particular plan?
Interesting. Honestly I quit following Malone awhile ago so I am admittedly not an expert in the nuances of his opinions. When i did follow him I caught some inconsistencies and contradictions so I turned my attention to folks who seemed more genuine. It's true that I need to be careful assuming that I understand someone's intentions based on some scraps of their public life. That being said- for the time being, based on grandiosity of this lawsuit- I don't trust him ;)
I agree with OS Councelor. I’ve watched Dr. Malone many times discuss this very thing. He lives in the same reality I live in. The Breggins owe an apology - a 25 million dollar apology.
Honestly, I don't know why I jumped on this article this morning... I don't pay much attention to Malone because of my aforementioned suspicions of him and it is a serious thing to accuse someone of being part of the Deep State NWO apparatus. I don't have enough knowledge of Malone to prove anything. I think I had some of my negative impressions of him validated by the tacky (IMO) lawsuit and got caught up in the hype. Also, i am partial to the Breggins....
Commenting was probably a little self indulgent on my part. I should probably walk away from this thread altogether and spend time with my kids!
That being said, if you have a video of Malone discussing the NWO I would be open to hearing it from the horse's mouth.
yep, I failed to read the link where this was described, thanks. Sometimes I need help waking up. . . ha! and yes, gee, there MUST be more, right?
Even if Malone does not believe he is "letting them off the hook" it is just an opinion not grounds for libel. How in the world could his lawyer logically figure this is a winning position for him?
If this is ALL there is, to me, it really makes me question HIS overall credibility. Kind of reminds me of the statement Dr. Trozzi made in which he soberly questions whether Apollo moonshots ever landed on the moon. Totally weird.
No, you have it wrong. Breggin's point is that the mass formation during Covid was deliberately induced. Yes, people had a responsibility and of course there were many protests and these protests were the only thing truly spontaneous during the induced mass formation. But notice how these protests were suppressed, doctors were censored and fired for speaking up, and safe and effective drugs were deliberately suppressed in order to continue the fear campaign that amplified the mass formation as health organizations and the media moved in lockstep based on deliberately cherry-picked data and suppression of contrary data, so that everyone could stand up and say "we're following the data." Breggin says it was all deliberate and planned, and this is exactly what RFK, Jr., says as well. Desmet specifically says there was no conspiracy. And now Malone is working hard to suppress the idea of conspiracy by breaking Breggin's kneecaps.
Malone is the one splitting the resistance and creating an opposition within the opposition. This is insidious.
Mass formation is real. Breggin and Desmet both know this although might call it different things. Malone is pretending that the dispute is over the reality of mass formation. It is not. The core of the dispute is over whether this formation was spontaneous or induced during Covid.
Guess what? If we hadn't suppressed Dr. Ioannidis' initial take on Covid fatality and the clear age stratification, if we hadn't suppressed hydroxychloroquine and then ivermectin and other safe treatments, if we hadn't suppressed doctors promoting these treatments, if we hadn't given Covid 24/7 news coverage that was largely fabricated, if we had allowed working people who had little susceptibility to Covid get on with their lives, if we'd advised calm instead of panic, then there would have been no mass formation for what was largely a bad flu. Covid would have existed in the background, where it belonged. If our health agencies were truly working for the people they would've pooled clinical evidence for treatment from doctors all over the country (like Dr. Zelenko) and we'd have emerged from Covid relatively unscathed. But, that wasn't the point, was it? The point was a mass formation of fear. Desmet just has the wrong end of the stick.
Are you saying that every action on this chain of events was a coordinated aspect of a grand conspiracy that was launched and managed by some people somewhere who had the power to dictate behaviors?
That "power" was the inducement of what Desmet calls mass formation. They created the fear, they amplified it. They control the media. They control the CDC and the FDA and Tony Fauci.
"They" want a Great Reset, and for them the end justifies the means. This is why they set forward the bogus theory of catastrophic CO2 warming, which now looks very much like a tool to induce another "mass formation" of fear when (bogus) studies come out telling us that tipping points are imminent and we need to act now.
We're at a tipping point where technology can be used to monitor and manage everyone on the planet. Individual self-determination-- the bedrock ideal of America-- will die when that happens. "Emergencies" like Covid will be used to usher in this new social credit system, and what better emergency than the potential death of the very planet?
Malone has been very silent on the implications of the theory of catastrophic CO2 warming and how that theory is the moral foundation for the Great Reset, without which the Reset is completely unnecessary. I was always curious about this because it's so blatant.
Imminent global catastrophe would be a convenient "emergency" to launch a track/trace system they so desire because of course it'll be "necessary" to monitor everyone's carbon footprint, for the greater good and to save the planet. And then we can install the Langan/Malone program of anti-dysgenics, which is eugenics spelled backwards, so that we'd need permission to reproduce because of course over-population is the root cause of our supposed planetary emergency.
Great Post. I could not be more convinced. I may be leaving Malone's newsletter if he does not change course. Whether he is controlled opposition or is ego expanding is immaterial-- both wrong courses.
EDIT, 3 mo later: I TRIED to leave but the cancel subscription I tried must not have "taken"! I see that I am still subscribed and there are no refunds for cutting out. . . early.
You are right to be skeptical. I was too at first.
Do some research. There's some stuff even on YouTube. Plenty on Substack. Pat Wood sums it up best. It's called Technocracy. The John Birch Society also has information. Be ready to separate wheat from chaff. A lot of chaff out there. Q for instance. And look at the WEF website. The "conspirators" don't admit to genocide (of course) but they do want a one world government where they'll own everything and take care of the rest of us. They really, really wanted a needle in every arm.
You're missing the point of the Breggin-Malone dispute.
Edit: I've read the Malone lawsuit. Breggin has been calling him out as opposition for some time, so Malone has a leg to stand on.
When it gets to the courts of course they'll side with Malone because "there's no conspiracy, just a mass formation."
For the life of me it certainly looks like Malone is fighting the wrong battle and that Breggin is 100% right about Desmet, whom Malone defends even though he must understand what the core dispute is about and that Breggin is in fact correct. But Malone is steering his followers into "there was no conspiracy camp" despite that on the one hand he might assert that there was. It's a subtle and deceptive game he's playing. Desmet is wrong about what actually happened during Covid: it was carefully planned, coordinated, and executed to induce a mass formation. The only thing spontaneous was the resistance.
Malone has shown us all his true colors and the lengths he'll go to, to defend his "no conspiracy, just a mass formation" stance.
Now everyone will be afraid to cross Malone. That's the point of the lawsuit, no?
Quite right and it is a very realistic fear that the courts will automatically side with Malone by focusing on the "conspiracy theory" aspect with claims that there is no definitive evidence to support such a claim; of course a lot of evidence does support such a claim with more coming out all the time; but the courts will follow the politically correct narrative backed by all of the fake science and the paid for shills of big pharma and the usual government hacks; once again this has all the earmarks of a well planned strategy orchestrated by Malone's puppetmasters who intend to destroy any serious opposition to reaching their goal of global mastery; and, as usual, the facts and the truth will be buried and Malone and his supporters will claim the kind of victory we have become accustomed to from watching stolen elections.
Yes, and the fact is at this point in time "we" do NOT know it is solid fact that "they" are orchestrating the entire debacle unfolding here. It will be nigh impossible to find / show provable connections between the WEF, for example, and the US DoD and subsequent down-feed of command and control into various Fed. Departments and MSM. "They" have all the US and international security systems(MI6, CIA, FBI, DoD, NSA, etc etc) controlling the "PROJECT".
none of these ideas have merit. Malone is burning Breggin by spending his money on lawyers. Win or lose, makes no difference. Here is how it works:
• Using lawsuits, rich people sometimes sue middle-class people to force them to pay ruinous lawyers’ fees. These expenses are like buying paperclips for the wealthy, and winning or losing—or even the issues litigated—are typically unimportant to them. Here is one example, and others are legion. Some New York apartment co-ops are inhabited by people worth tens of millions. But if they allow the wrong billionaire psychopath into their midst, he can dominate them using litigation threats. The co-op admission committees typically ask for twenty (20) references, then turn many people down anyway.
• I came in contact with a wealthy doctor who sued patients, and patients sued him. He also sued tenants, suppliers, and even moving companies. Some of his tenants won countersuits. One of his patients sued him for malpractice, lost the countersuit, and spent ten years trying to get the judgment overturned. When everyone finally walked away, the court had seized her house. After it was sold, there was no money left for the doctor when the loan, realtors, and bankruptcy trustee were paid. By the end, this woman’s total lawyer bills were $500,000. The doctor must have enjoyed it all because it was not profitable. I was informally sympathetic to this woman, so he called and threatened me. On another occasion, he tried to get me thrown out of our professional organization. I had to defend myself in front of a committee and they told us to stay away from each other—wise advice, for I was abrasive in those days.
You mean from Mr. Integrity himself? Who has no qualms about threatening an elderly couple with financial ruin and litigation headaches? I think Mr. Integrity lacks basic Decency.
Malone is an egomaniac- that I am sure of - but now I see him for what he really is, an asset for the American intelligence apparatus. It's all making so much sense now.
At first I wasn't going to "like" your comment because calling Malone an asset seemed a stretch. But after reading more, it does indeed make sense now.
The idea is to divide the movement and Malone has enough loyal followers that he can do that. The idea is also to send a message to any dissenters from Malone orthodoxy: argue with him and he'll break your kneecaps.
All along, Malone has been blind to the imminent threat not of global warming, but of the theory of warming catastrophe which is completely false. However, this is a key theory in the implementation of the Great Reset and this assumed premise is shot throughout Schwab's recent two books (at least), and virtually its sole moral justification.
Climate catastrophe-- emergency measures-- track/trace carbon footprints--- social credit scores and bingo, we're in the totalitarian dictatorship. Throw in a few more pathogens that came not from biolabs but from a disastrously warming world and the plan is complete.
Yet Malone has not once pointed out this trajectory.
I think Malones connections into the dark underbelly are a huge cause for concern. He still refers to these people as his colleagues and I don't see him being destroyed in any way shape or form other than on social media and from a few people changing his Wikipedia around. Others involved in this movement have lost their license to practice as well as there are livelihoods. This guy is still doing interviews about his horse breeding to wealthy women. And I still cannot get over the fact that he got the shot knowing the technology behind it because he developed it.
I agree, he looks like, at least, controlled opposition, and more probably, a knowing bad actor. He is probably like many others who have a status quo investment which they seem unable to entertain critique of, so have tantrums when this investment is rigorously challenged. His criticism of Peter A. McCullough MD is quite telling, because Peter is one of many rightly challenging one of the major pillars supporting this "medical" scam. That being, Pasteur's Germ Theory nonsense, thus virology, and all the nonsense about natural and man-made genetic modification of these alleged pathogens called viruses. There are Billions to Trillions of fiat currency tokens, and associated power, at risk if that corrupt Ponzi narrative collapses, and some "elites" have clearly already caused the destruction of critics and people providing honest solutions, including by murder; this looks like more of the same.
I had no idea he was criticizing Dr. McCullough. To me that speaks volumes as Dr. Peter McCullough has put a lot more on the line than Malone has.
Yes, and good points above too. Dr. McCullough has lost his license but not so with Dr. Malone. Interesting indeed.
not license but Internal Med board cert
Does anyone have a link about that?
This is the link on the Breggin’s site - https://www.americaoutloud.com/robert-malone-sues-the-breggins-for-25-million/
I believe Dr. Malone has his own substack that should be easy to find but not sure if it is mentioned there or not.
Insightfully stated!
on the other hand. . .
I just now read Malone's latest:
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/just-the-facts?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=583200&post_id=87613609&isFreemail=false&utm_medium=email
After reading the details he offers, I am feeling less sympathy for the Breggins as it sure appears to me he has been defamed. They don't seem to be the harmless little "old couple down the street" . . .
I will hang fire and let the situation settle a bit before backing either of them.
Quite agree. Malone's claims have merit as do Breggins. Not sue why the situation has devolved to the court. One hopes a mediation session might resolve their differences. There are elements of truth in Desmet's notions of a mass in sort of hysteria. We have all seen that irrationality. Desmet enjoys book revenue and gains some status. Not clear what Malone's gains might be other than notoriety.
Fame is an insatiable appetite, but securing a proper legacy in the history of medicine is what is driving him, which in itself can push a person “over the edge.” I prefer to think of Malone as having lost his way instead of being a litigious jerk with the goal of draining $25,000,000 from the Breggins.
That is not proven.
Would it surprise you, though? When I asked him to at least look over Karen Kingstons stuff he told me he would not because hes not a conspiracy theorist. Forgive me if I'm wrong but that's not how science is supposed to work.
The Deep State has ways & means ;)
That is UNBELIAVBLE. He’s ridiculous. Maybe just because she gets interviewed by Stew! 🤣
Then you have discoveries ahead of you.
Don't bother trying to get through to this person, or have a reasoned discussion. You'll be trash-talked almost immediately.
'Me a control all beware' is anagram of Robert Wallace Malone, his full name.
Under the circumstances seems reasonable. He will say some reasonable things but needs much discernment. Even the Devil tells some truths to wheedle his way in.
Thank you Stephanie. I have a feeling I'm replying to the next Whitney Webb just as soon as you expand your profound insights beyond the substack comment section. 😏
I'm just so disappointed that Dr. Malone would do this.
First of all, I only tangentially heard that Dr. Breggin and Dr. Malone didn't get along. But I think Malone is extremely over-estimating how far and strongly Breggin's criticisms of Malone have taken hold. Proof - I'm subscribed to dozens of substacks, and have been reading them since Nov 2021. I don't recall one instance where Breggin's criticisms of Malone's were mentioned. Even on the other discussion boards where everyone is critical of the covid vaccine, I haven't seen them mentioned anywhere there either, and these are places where all the critical news/studies/commentaries on the covid vaccines are found, so I would say they are representative of the audience who might come across the Breggin-Malone beef. So I can't see how there is any material hit to Malone's reputation or standing. If anything, all of the New York Times and other corporate press articles present far greater examples of anything resembling defamation against Malone.
Let's look at what the lawyer states Malone has suffered: "in addition to the pain, suffering, insult, embarrassment, humiliation, and injury to his personal and professional reputations, publication of the Statements caused Dr. Malone to lose business and income, lost public appearances due to perceived reputational risk, and other special damages, including career damage, including loss of future employment, loss of future earnings, impaired and diminished earning capacity"
Reputationally, as I already said in the beginning, I don't think there's any case for that. And which public appearances did Malone miss because of Breggin? He seemed to be at the most recent conferences. If he DID get banned from some, it's not going to be because of Breggin, but because of some clueless MSM article that had a wide reach. And none of those are going to cite Breggin, they'll cite some vax-pushing hack.
I looked at the lawsuit - on page 8 the list of supposed defamatory claims begins: https://breggin.com/admin/fm/source/6905_breggin/Malone/Malone-V-Breggins-Complaint-10-30-22.pdf
There are 14 statements listed.
This one for instance, is entirely a philosophical disagreement between the two:
“The synonymous concepts of mass formation, mass hypnosis, and mass psychosis have an obvious damaging impact on the international health freedom movement and on the cause of liberty everywhere. These concepts take our eyes off the totalitarian global predators who are taking
over and exploiting humanity. They restrain us from charging these predators with criminal conspiracy if we win the battle with them. The pernicious effects of the Desmet/Malone ideology came fully into light with the recent publication of Desmet’s The Psychology of Totalitarianism and Malone’s continuing efforts in support of mass psychosis.”
How is that defamatory in any way? There are going to be strong disagreements over any differing sociological views. They basically have a disagreement on the nature of evil actors. Man, that's a debate that goes back millennia.
Again, another philosophical disagreement that is listed as a defamatory statement:
"Whether Desmet or Malone consciously intended it, their ideology has seriously harmful effects similar to a psyops — a psychological operation — aimed at paralyzing the health freedom movement and freedom movements worldwide.”
That's again a disagreement. Activists are going to have disagreements over theory - for example, is using the corporate social media such as Facebook beneficial for outreach, or is it 'playing into their hands.' Such disagreements can get heated, but how this approaches defamation is beyond me.
Another disagreement:
"“Desmet and Malone’s [mass formation psychosis] concept deflect, discourage and undermine attempts to place the blame directly on global predators who have been committing mass murder under the guise of COVID-19.”
Again, that's a wholly philosophical debate. You could write a book about the strength about one view (Breggin's) vs another (Malone's).
The only thing that remotely has any merit is whether Malone is "deep state" or "controlled opposition" or something. The thing is I've seen hundreds of people called that - I've never seen any lawsuits for being called that ever. Even people who are anti-deep state have been called "deep state actors" so I can't see how this is a serious and materially damaging hit on one's reputation.
Hmm. I am glad you posted the details. The implication that Malone was doing a psyop and could be deep state seem irresponsible if not defamatory precisely because Breggin has such clout. That sort of accusation has harmed a lot of people badly. It also comes across as ego-based (my theory is better than yours). I believe Peter should apologize publicly and seek dismissal of the suit.
The key point of contention is: was mass formation during Covid deliberately induced or spontaneous? Mass formation is real; I don't think anyone argues about that. But Desmet and Malone are providing cover, saying that this was largely spontaneous and that people like Schwab and Gates took advantage of it, as they were themselves largely captured by this mass formation. Desmet specifically says there was no conspiracy.
This is nonsense. Breggin pointed it out. The mass formation was deliberately, 100% induced. That was the point of Covid, wasn't it? Then the mechanisms that Desmet accurately described could kick in.
Malone has shown his true colors. No decent human being sues an elderly couple for $25 million because of a disagreement over spontaneous versus induced mass formation ... unless, that is, one wants to suppress the idea of "conspiracy" and warn others off that idea.
25 million dollars is an obscene amount of money and a waste of valuable time. Why would Malone want to tie himself to such a quagmire?
The thing is, being a "covid personality" isn't Malone's job. It's supposedly something he does in his spare time out of the "goodness of his heart"... Nothing the Breggins have done should affect his job in vaccine development (you are aware that he is still in the vaccine development business?)
I believe he has bigger aspirations and I do not fault him for that. He wants to lead, and his signature is integrity (see his latest article). Anyone who challenges his integrity (implying he is covert and dishonest) is defaming him. The 25 million seems to be a statement figure.
I have been with Peter Breggin since I discovered him almost 30 years ago. He is also a great leader. He should apologize for casting aspersions on Malone's character. That is what has Malone angry. I would be angry too. This may be difficult to understand for people that think only in terms of power and money.
To each his own. I even understand his anger; but to me a great leader earns his spot through the power of his character. Succumbing to anger through litigation is an aggressive power play and not something done by any leader I would want to follow. He should battle it out through the power of the pen and not attempt to financially ruin a couple in the twilight years of their lives.
Every single one of us should be questioning Malone's character after his lawsuit for $25 million against a man who has worked so hard for we, the people, for so many years. And, against pharma.
Breggin called out Desmet's nonsense, and that's really what it is. Breggin is absolutely correct. https://tinyurl.com/anxeyv8b Yet Malone still sticks with Desmet-- why? Surely he can see that Breggin is correct in his criticisms of Desmet?
Breggin would only need to be silenced if he were speaking the truth. Think about it.
Isn't Malone, unwittingly or not, doing exactly what pharma would like him to do to Breggin, a man who has poked pharma in the eye for years?
Exactly right! Malone is doing what big pharma would like him to do and appears that he is under the influence of the puppetmasters controlling big pharma; in every interview and article both Malone and Desmet typically downplay or outright deny that there was an elitist and globalist manipulation of the masses; the concept of mass formation serves the purpose of indoctrinating the masses even further by providing a psychological "excuse" for individual behavior that was in actuality based on ignorance, cowardice , fear and self preservation; in any case, mass formation is descriptive of the RESULT, not the CAUSE , the result of decades of cumulative indoctrination into group-think by those determined to "reset" the world order....and Covid was just another weapon in their arsenal designed to achieve that end.
How about questioning his motives of shilling for vax's most of his career? How about habing the idea of wanting fo develop mrna and alter/edit dna that God created? I believe thede were lawsuits fdom 2012 where the rx companies fought to own dna, and wede gdanted it because they showed mrna alters the original dna and so it's no longer the same.
You make good points but if you are open you might also see that Breggin's criticisms were ego-based and excessive. That happens to the best of us. Breggin is a great soldier but his zeal may have got the best of him here. I would like him to apologize and try to move on.
If Breggin is correct then his criticism aren't in fact excessive, are they? So that is the question: is Breggin correct? He certainly is about Desmet.
So if Breggin is right about Desmet and yet Malone still promotes Desmet and defends him, what does that say about Malone?
For those of you who have Desmet's book, have a look at the Sierpinski triangle Desmet introduces in chapter 8. Why? It's to prove to us that there is no manipulation, isn't it? Just as the Sierpinski triangle appears to be deliberately constructed, so too did High Covid appear to be deliberately constructed, according to Desmet. There was manipulation that was no manipulation; Desmet explicitly says there was only the appearance of conspiracy: hence the Sierpinski triangle.
So why does Malone promote Desmet? Once Breggin shows us the flaws we can see them, can't we? They're obvious. The Sierpinski triangle is a good example of Desmet's doublespeak and his seduction of making us believe there WAS manipulation but at the same time pulling the rug out from under that idea. This is devious.
Covid-19 manipulation: it was all just a Sierpinski triangle. An illusion of conspiracy but not a real conspiracy. Desmet is an apologist for the predators, is he not? And Malone is defending him.
Who are you to say Desmet's work is nonsense?
All one has to do is read Desmet's work to understand that it's complete nonsense.
Totalitarianism requires censorship and surveillance. That's all. It doesn't require mass formation at all: the formation arises after the herding of people through fear, as we saw during the massive censorship during High Covid.
Even Desmet's allusions to Arendt's writing on totalitarianism fails since Desmet imagines that the masses gave rise to the terror of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia. This is absurd, and Arendt herself says that the masses went along, yes, but this was because of social and economic disruptions which had very clear objects (and were not, as Desmet claims, amorphous anxieties with no object.) But the masses did not create the terror of Nazi Germany or Stalin's Russia: they were subject to it, and this terror produced alienation and atomization even in the pre-totalitarian stages.
Ask yourself this: is it really true, as Desmet states, that prior to Covid we were all atomized and anxious, ripe for mass formation? Or did we instead go to ball games, concerts, colleges, parties, bars and restaurants and enjoy being with each other? Is it really true that most of us were mechanistic thinkers waiting for technological utopia, or did we all understand very clearly that life is far more than technology and that fulfillment comes from relationships with family and friends?
What can cause mass disruption is economic and social collapse, which began to happen during Covid. Then, yes, the masses might look for a leader, someone to get them out-- a new Hitler, perhaps. But this is NOT a psychological mechanism per se, it's economic and social conditions leading to anxiety and uncertainty.
Odd that Desmet says nothing of this and blames is all on we, the people, who are supposedly damaged by our propensity for blind mechanistic thinking.
Isn't it odd that the real beginnings of totalitarianism-- censorship-- are now in play on a large scale, but Desmet virtually ignores this? And isn't it odd that the solid foundation for totalitarianism-- censorship-- is now being used against someone speaking up against Desmet?
Mass formation may be a real phenomenon. But the question is whether the Covid hysteria was an example of this.
NOW, I understand why I had trepidations about him without anything concrete. I find it odd that there are some people you can "get vibes" from just through their writings.
Important, really important, to honor this. I stopped trusting him soon after I began reading him. Many reasons. Bit we only have one gut reaction and it is usually correct.
Desmet's theory angered me. I realize that was from cognitive dissonance since--in the case of the Covid hysteria--the concept of Mass Formation makes no sense.
Desmet's s theory has alternatively left me cold and at times seemed sensible. I see deeper and historic things at work while at the same time appreciating how well the idea of Mass Formation works to explain denial to those who don't like intellectual subjects. I also appreciate his awareness that it is a relatively small number of dissenters who help turn totalitarianism around. None of his ideas are terribly original.
I really don't know what this is all about, but I will tell you this: It was Dr. Peter Breggin's beautiful loving voice through his podcasts and his insightful book that gave me much needed hope when I had zero hope. I looked forward to each podcast - and I honestly felt loved by this man as his kindness came through. I will always be grateful to him for this - as well as the expose he and Ginger put forth in their book. Thank you Dr. Breggin for ALL you have done over the years. I also took his advice about what he and Ginger did when they were sick early on likely with this virus. My family used the iodine in a nasal and throat rinse, as well as other recommendations when we were stricken in September, 2021. We did not even need to call a doctor, though we were plenty sick.
Again, I will forever be grateful to them both.
Their awesome book is underappreciated. It's not just good research (like The Real Anthony Fauci) but digging into psychology and spirituality, and calls for a more loving moral world. Now, if you look at it, suing somebody for $25 million because they feel offended is petty and soulless.
Beautifully expressed!
It got me listening to the Breggins!
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Just my two cents worth, but I find several things troubling about this situation. 1: Recall that Malone was late to join in the health freedom movement, not raising his head above ground until December 2021. That’s almost 2 years into the plandemic, after brave doctors such as Breggin, Kory, McCullough, Marik, etc. stood on the front lines taking direct fire, risking their livelihoods from the beginning. 2: In his December 2021 appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, Malone bragged about his ties to military and intelligence agencies, even “outing” a CIA operative in Wuhan. He also claimed to have lost business and had his license threatened because of his appearance at an event in Hawaii in the fall of 2021 - one year BEFORE the Breggins discussed Mathias Desmet. 3: Malone and his wife are pals with Bill Gates and the rest of the philo-monopolists, who have likely never heard of Peter and Ginger Breggin. Therefore, they would be unmoved by any perceived slight Malone claims to have suffered. His reputation is firmly entact, as he still retains his advisory position with the NIH. 4: Senator Ron Johnson has stated that, in the Second Opinion Testimony (January 2022), the original plan was to open the session with testimony from the Vax injured witnesses. Their stories would grab everyone’s attention right from the start, then the medical experts were to testify in the afternoon. But the schedule was flipped at the last minute, as someone new took control of the event. According to Johnson, the change weakened the impact of the Vax injured victims and undermined the gravity of the forum. The only person new to the event, and the movement, in 2022 was Robert Malone.
Malone desperately wants to control the narrative and lashes out at anyone who questions his qualifications to be the voice of health freedom. Don’t forget, he never said that the jabs are dangerous to everyone - he took the path of least resistance, advocating protecting children, but not all children. He continued to advocate jabbing seniors, the immuno-compromised, and vulnerable children- just like a good eugenicist would.
https://ia904609.us.archive.org/1/items/dr.-robert-malone-dark-vaccine-wizard/DR.%20ROBERT%20MALONE%20-%20DARK%20VACCINE%20WIZARD.pdf
Ok now this comment made me think. How can I verify their ties to Gates? Thank you
Lulu, Diana West did a good dive into Malone back in January 2022. She also links to other researchers who have done significant deep dives into the Malones and their connections. Lots of rabbit holes to follow.
https://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/4421/Dr-Robert-Malone-A-Risk-Analysis.aspx
Great link!
thank you!
I am defending Malone but I can see some merit in this claim. He needs to get more coaching to check his ego. I do not see any nefarious intent. A bit too much ego, yes.
It's true that we shouldn't assume to understand what lies in a man's heart without knowing him. Just saying there's lots of activity around him which should give one reason to question his role in the "resistance "
All the best to you, "old school counselor"- let us not be divided over one man :)
His creepy coronavirus tie says it all! They've got him around neck!
That's extremely important! Thank YOU! My view is, Malone infiltrated the entire 'covid response' together with his 'military bodies' (he calls them literally this way, whoever it may be!), in order to bring the 'truthful' viewpoint to everyone, assured as the inventor of the very technology which NOW KILLS MILLIONS!!!!
It should be Breggin who sues Malone, not the opposite, and not for millions, but BILLIONS, which then can be distributed to all the families of the deceased, who BELIEVED they are dealing with VACCINE and NOT gene modification treatment, with lethal consequences. Malone, the inventor, double vaxxed, still alive and thriving, everywhere on news, that's quite a good advertisement for the lethal concoctions, coming directly from the inventor! Oh, btw. his first 'opposition' against the injections came out only AFTER starting the injections on children. He didn't oppose the inventions when all the parents were injected, and DYING! WHY?
Who is going to take the parent-less children now? His military bodies?
Yes, lot of sci-fi in my point of view, but it adds up, for me.
It adds up very well, extremely well stated! I have always said that Malone is lacking in transparency and most likely is not acting as an independent voice but as an agent for those who are controlling him; he was probably chosen as the one to launch the lawsuit against the Breggins because he has developed a considerable following of supporters which puts his "cause" in a good light; I was once one of them but no longer and others I know appear to have lost any sense of critical discernment and feel good that they belong to his "club".
Thank you for the confirmation of the 'making sense' opinion. On other substack post I also mentioned the other important TIME issue with Malone's sudden appearance. Here it us if you like to consider reading:
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That's why I NEVER signed up for the letters from this criminal called Malone... It was clear that from his VERY FIRST appearance on the dark horse, in June or July 2021, when still not too many people were injected, that his main mission was to say to millions, oh I invented that mRNA technique, I got my 2 injections and you see, I'm still alive!!! He never even considered to tell everyone, it is NOT A 'vaccine', but GENE THERAPY! For that alone, I do believe he and the news misled all simple people immensely. And that costed peoples lives, as we see MILLIONS BY NOW!!! Peter, SUE MELONE, not for millions, but for BILLIONS...
Speaking of "SUDDEN" appearances, look at the timeline and chronology of Mattias Desmet. He VERY "suddenly" appeared with his scientifically-unfounded theory and Malone started championing it (rebranding it as "Mass Psychosis") everywhere he spoke -- and Malone, notably, is everywhere. Looks like a well-financed and well-orchestrated Info-Op . The lawsuit is merely a "Divide & Conquer" strategy to distract & weaken the Medical Freedom movement, to promote the Desmet unscientific theories that relieve totalitarian psychopathic leadership from the personal responsibility & accountability of their evil choices (after all, we dumb proles are merely "manifesting" them out of our own fears), and to silence & crush a HEROIC 85 year old Harvard-educated Psychiatrist who has devoted his entire life to honorably and at great personal / professional expense to fighting for humanity: Dr. Breggin led the fight to make lobotomies illegal; to end psychological brain surgeries,' to stop disgraceful abuse of using black children in State care as involuntary test subjects; to stop the use of electro-shock therapy; and to stop the horrific over-prescription of psychotropic drugs. What has Malone been doing for most of his professional career? But now, when Malone claims to FINALLY have switched to the side of Light & Goodness, he chooses to sue an 85 year old HERO of humanity?! This is the definitive "tell" as they say in poker. Malone has revealed he is not playing for us nor for our side in the fight against the BioSecurity State and in the fight against the Global Predators.
Very well Stated!
i got my 2 saline & still alive
thank you, that's another issue! nobody knows who got exactly what, except for Pfizer/Mod-ERNA.. Just wonder, did people who decided to get jabbed, needed an appointment? Until then, it would be enough time to prepare the 'right' vial..
You're very fortunate. My 42 yr old brother in law isn't. And most I know are dealing sith many health issues, they didn't have prior to the rat juice. Everyrhing from cancsr to migraines, vertigo, etc.
praying that his health improves🙏
Brother in law passed. The rest seem to be getfing worse but its all dkfferent things so Dr.s tell them they already had it or blah blah blah
Perfect!
Thank you!
In the headline paragraph, it says to find out why malone is worked up, we should read breggins.com. seems a bit biased.
It's unfortunate that people allow their emotions to get in the way of their objectives. But both of these combatants have been under continuous assault for a lo g time. Probably some PTSD involved. The rest of us should remain focused on the outcomes both Malone and Breggins want. United we stand, divided we fall.
I disagree. We need to understand what this dispute is truly about and look at what Malone is trying to do. He's actively working to suppress the idea of conspiracy during Covid-19, which Desmet explicitly says did not happen. Breggin knows better. So does RFK, Jr. And, so do we.
Now Malone is doing the equivalent of breaking Breggin's kneecaps to warn others what will happen to them if they entertain ideas of Covid conspiracy.
He may be trying to keep the movement credible. This is how we confront that issue:
Important statement about conspiracies
Since we are critical thinkers we are very careful about which beliefs we ingest. All of us are constantly bombarded with unproven theories from questionable sources of information. The process of cultural secession from dominant narratives can challenge one’s social moorings and open the secessionist’s mind to all sorts of anti-establishment theories. We tread carefully into these murky waters and use our critical thinking skills to arrive at our beliefs.
Cultural succession is word salad for WOKE in the real world of science. Critical thinking is what we were robbed of when Big Pharma, Big Media, and Big Government colluded to keep us in the dark. 🙈🙉🙊
Gee, I guess we're supposed to be impressed with your fancy schmancy ten-dollar words and syntax. Ooh-Aahh. . . .
Let's keep it simple: If you are SO concerned about "unproven theories" perhaps you could enlighten us all as to the SCIENTIFIC FOUNDATIONS of the Mattias Desmet theories Malone has been pushing incessantly. Desmet is a psychologist/psycotherapist. He is neither a trained psychiatrist NOR a trained historian. Malone is a virologist. Dr. Peter Breggin is a Harvard-educated MD / psychiatrist. He has much greater standing than either Desmet or Malone to critique a psychological theory. And BTW that's ALL it is -- unless you can provide the credible SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to show Desmet's theories, so aggressively championed by Malone, are anything more than merely unsubstantiated theories offered by a Freudian psychotherapist. Kind of like Freudian Penis Envy. But please feel free to provide the SCIENTIFIC FOUNDATIONS of THAT theory while you're at it. We all have our dictionary apps poised to look up your polysyllabic vocabulary. C'mon, help Malone keep our movement credible. Protect it from us dumb clucks who don't know how to think critically.
We'll wait. . . . .
Unless you want biological information a psychologist is as credible as a shrink. Even more so because they work with people and take an interest in their humanity. Shrinks are bioreductionists who just hand out prescriptions for various drugs.
Well said.
If you fight your own team, you'll lose. If you want to know malones issues, the court filings are available online. But I have no more interest in his neuroses than I do yours, only whether he's an effective fighter. He's done more to win the fight than anyone.
I read the court filings. Yes, Breggin said some bad things about Malone.
Malone is a fighter ... well, he publishes a heck of a lot for a guy constantly traveling and speaking. But what's the end goal of all this writing? He's gotten tons of followers, yes. But for me this is key: those followers now believe the Desmet line, which is emphatically that there was no conspiracy. Desmet in chapter 8 of his book introduces the Sierpinski triangle to "prove" to us that what looks like a conspiracy isn't a conspiracy at all. Desmet in one breath says there was definitely manipulation (so Malone's followers can be deceived that Desmet is against the Reset) and in the next breath that the manipulation was due to ideology, not planning: mass formation is ultimately due to an amorphous ideology that captures us all and no one, no one at all, has deliberately induced this formation. There is no grand conspiracy.
It's an extremely insidious theory and Malone's support of it is a "tell." As I see it, Desmet and Malone are both working for a vision of the Great Reset that blames the administrative state that's been captured by ideology, with no Great Reset conspiracy behind it. This is EXACTLY what Desmet is saying.
This tactic allows the Great Reset to continue working in the background, doesn't it? We go after the administrative state but the real players are free to plan their next moves. Who cares if a couple of Faucis get shuffled around or if Walensky gets fired?
This is a long game. Track and trace, monitor and manage is the end goal. A couple of "emergencies" and the whole thing could be set in motion but Malone and Desmet say, not to worry, it's no conspiracy, it's just that damn administrative state. When they tell us to snap out of our mass formation it'll be too late.
Preserve freedom and individual self-determination. It seems to me that Malone is likely working to dismantle these, for a "greater good" that people like him and Langan have decided is best for us. Either that or Malone is way out of his depth in the philosophy department, but judging from his writing (if it is even his) this isn't the case.
Yes, I'm speculating. But in any case, I can no longer trust the man.
Bottom line: Desmet's philosophy is insidious: of that, there's no question. Read it carefully. Breggin is correct. Any support of Desmet undermines the truth of what really happened.
Doesn't matter if there's a conspiracy. First priority is make the oppression stop. We'll identify the causes and punish the perpetrators later, at the new Nuremberg trials. Making it stop requires convincing more people to stop being victims. They're learning fast. The same psychology Desmet attributed to the fall can also be adapted to create the recovery. As Desmet generalizes, we only need about 5% in a noisy resistance to swing the 65% complacents to defeat the 35% oppressors. We shouldn't get hung up on the details. Nor personalities. It's not about Desmet, or Malone, only about me and those I care about.
If we focus on protecting individual self-determination and medical freedom for everyone and informed consent to medication with no penalties for refusing to consent, then I agree.
I'm concerned that Malone really is a Trojan Horse and really is manipulating us for ends that he and his buds are hiding from us. This is of course speculation; but since he's suing Breggin for an outrageous $25 million I have to scratch my head and ask what's that all about? Breggin was a warrior long, long before Malone came on the scene. He's done a great deal for we, the people against pharma, which is now gleeful that Breggin is being sued-- by Malone no less!
If Malone doesn't back down won't that be a huge tell?
25 mil ain't what it used to be. But I don't care about personal squabbles, only about making the oppressions stop. Attacking allies doesn't help.
What if acknowledging the conspiracy is necessary to stop the oppression? If there isn't one we should rule it out since different methods will be required. Like a physical sickness. "It shouldn't matter if its anemia or thyroid problems. I just want to feel better!" Or car problems. "Why do you need to look under the hood? Who cares if it's the engine? Just make the clunking stop already."
And yet Malone supports Desmet and Desmet clearly says there was no Covid conspiracy, that it gives us comfort to think there is because we want to try to make sense of what happened. This is what Desmet says.
What's Malone up to, then? Is there a conspiracy or not? Or is he having it both ways so that he can slip Langan's eugenics in on the side?
Does Malone actually believe the earth has an overpopulation problem and the people need to be deceived in order to do the right thing population-wise? Because as his buddy Langan says, "people are stupid."
Who in hell is Robert Malone? A man who sues an 86-year-old man for $25 million merely for the words he said has very questionable ethics, to say the least. But at least he has Integrity, or so he tells us.
Have a look at this; I have not verified it's contents but it seems damning: https://ia904609.us.archive.org/1/items/dr.-robert-malone-dark-vaccine-wizard/DR.%20ROBERT%20MALONE%20-%20DARK%20VACCINE%20WIZARD.pdf
there is no malware or other issue.
He has patents for early technology. But it doesn't matter who was first, does it? He didn't make anyone take the vax, and has vociferously argued against it. If your strategy is to demean allies, you're doomed to fail.
Actually its 25.3 mil plus interest and fees. And a jury will propably add punitive damages. And the defendant's age is irrelevant. If he's 186, he still can't defame others.
I don't think Malone is interested in Desmet personally, but agrees with his research. The issue isn't Desmet or Malone, it's mass psychology. Competent critics should deal with the issue, not the personalities. But, that's harder for some people.
Malone has worked for the conspirators, so probably knows more about their tactics than most people, if not their motives. His writings show pretty clear intent to oppose them.
Tom Renz posted a link to tucker Carlson interview w desmet. Desmet describes politicians as being in servitude to the mass mob like the rest of us. The elites control the deep state bureaucrats, who use propaganda to manipulate the masses. 30% support the conspiracy, 65% recognize the scam but meekly follow the loudest combatants. If the 5% speak out against the tyrants, the 65% sheep will shift and the conspiracy will fail. Malone has been famously outspoken. Those who try to silence him are supporting the elites, usually oblivious (a.k.a., "useful idiots"), sometimes agents of the conspirators.
"The elites control the deep state bureaucrats, who use propaganda to manipulate the masses."
That isn't what Desmet says, and if it is, it's definitely not what he says in his book.
If the elites are controlling through propaganda then that isn't a spontaneous mass formation at all. Desmet says there was no Covid conspiracy and that it only appears that way because of the mechanism of mass formation.
So which is it? Elites control propaganda and use propaganda to create fear and that leads to mass formation, or the fear spontaneously arises during the mass formation?
Read what Breggin says and the distinction will be clear.
Exactly!
It's what desmet told tucker. Very good interview.
Desmet has consistently said the herd always needs a catalyst to drive their reactions. It's never spontaneous. It might seem that way to those who don't pay attention.
Desmet is having it both ways because his theory makes no sense and so he has to backtrack.
Do you honestly believe Covid-19 was all just spontaneous fear due to ideology? No planning, no censorship, no lockstep lockdowns that destroyed economies and livelihoods and lives? No 24/7 news coverage and brutal censorship of doctors who disagreed? No planned suppression of life-saving drugs, just spontaneously everyone decided to withhold safe treatments?
Have you seen Malone's "Most interesting man in the world" ad? I don't think he is suffering PTSD. He's having fun
PTSD isn't constant, it comes and goes. It's not a condition, it's a coping mechanism. It's treatable, but treatment is complicated while the combat that caused it continues.
Civilians see it after the war. Soldiers see it in every battle.
It's a very common affliction these days.
In reading Malone, I caught a vibe of self-importance of bloated ego which tipped me off. He does indeed to be a perfect sort of Trojan horse. There are many. This has been well planned for centuries. Develop a sense of health skepticism. Lots of snake oil salesmen out there. Obama threw lots of pretty words around too.
KW Norton, you are a more perceptive person than I! I did not see this coming.
I certainly didn't see it coming in time. I was inspired by some very misguided technocrats.
The movie has 10 million views and growing exponentially. This is more than any one else. Does the controlled opposition object to this as uncontrollable? Does he wish to use the 25M to purchase SubStack and what if someone I know bid 26? Is he doing DARKA’s bidding? Is he under threat? We don’t know the full story. For him it's a not a good look. Time will be telling all and there will be no hiding for anyone.
Malone revealed who he really is... ha, who is behind him and this lawsuit?! 80/20 to fool us! The great pretender!! ☺️
The fact that Malone wore a tie with a pattern of supposed coronaviruses always irked me. Where did he get that anyway? Struck me as kind of sinister. Also, his "Most interesting man" ad was super weird. Also, he continues to work in vaccine development.
One piece of the puzzle alone doesn't make a complete picture, but when it's all together, along with this frivolous lawsuit, I see a deep state picture emerging.
I always hated Malone ...he's a snake and I could see it immediately. Dr. Breggin and Ginger are heros and this guy's a fucktard ...he's arrogant and just looks like a mf weasel pos. Deep state still strong in his blood ..
This asshole is fucking with 2 people that have helped save so many ..wtf has this prick done other than act a fool and spout bs. Breggin is my favourite doctor and I don't even know htf asswipe Malone has the audacity to show his ugly ass mug in public. THANK YOU Dr. BREGGIN AND GINGER 🙏...coming from someone who's been tortured and abused by the medical mafia "cabal" to the extent of them hijacking my (entire) life completely ...*they ruined my life with a fraudulent lie and have caused so much trauma and pain. I am a woman whom was an absolutely destroyed child ..I was exploited ... caused immense pain and humiliation...terror...multiple assaults ...had cruel and non consensual highly illegal experiments forced upon me...the list of heart wrenching abuses goes on. ..including mkultra at (ROYAL VICTORIA REGIONAL HEALTH CENTRE) IN BARRIE ONTARIO CANADA 🇨🇦 this is an evil evil "hospital" ...and the horrors I've experienced will never ever be forgotten or forgiven...they know they are harming many...and they enjoy this thoroughly ...sexuallly and otherwise sadistic ..perpetrators of horrendous crime...don't enter this place under any circumstance. I personally speak of Dr.Breggin and Ginger in such high regard and tell people this man is my hero. And Malone wtf have you done??? Other than "create" the disgusting tech that's fucking murdering everyone while uou smirk and grin from your smug pos face. You re attacking the righteous the ones who are good...fuck you Malone. Screw with Gods chosen and you ll pay... you will...you ll pay. Breggin is tough as nails and you re a cowardess pos Malone. I didn't even need to know anything about this creep...I could see it all plainly on his face ...oh did I mention I hate this bitches face??😅...
I love Breggin's courage ...huge heart and any honorable endeavors...as well as Ginger's ...and I fuckin hate you Malone. Come sue me.
WOW! This speaks for itself...no comment needed!
Tall drink of the Kool.
Apologies on my behalf if just saying holy shit🤔...I feel you re a fuckin cunty bitch tho possibly and I'm totally done with anyone that's uhmmm in opposition of truth or wtf wanna say about wtf I've endured so...donno wtf you meant but ...bring it if you have a mf problem...with my fucking sharing ...and exposing corruption..😆
Oh...teacher go figure ..pedo fuck indoctrinating innocent children...
Unless you meant exposing dirty satanic shit...but I have a feeling you weren't uh...in favour of my comment shared🙄...
I hope your evil little bitch ass dies suddenly 😃🥳🥳🥳🥳 ...wtf is wrong with my comment..son?🤔🤔
You re a type of fool that hides in the shadows of bloody evil obviously...predatory af???
Hey Tony😃...go get fuckin jab happy you fucktard 😆
So sorry, I thought I was being supportive of your comment; you must have misunderstood, and BTW I have not had any "jabs"...
Now that (I'M) interpreting it properly and how intended lol..I see it very clearly as supportive so thanku kindly 🙏💯
May the God Lord bless and keep you safe in His loving arms!
Awe thanku so much and you as well!😊🙏 sorry 💌
Ya lol I was not uh understanding it so yes lol..I again apologize ..I thought you were saying I was fuct ..ya regardless I was saying go do it😆
You fuckin stupid cunt ...lol...I'm sure
you re a pos medical murderer ...or just some other random sac 0f absolute bloody trash..lol..thanks 😃
Lol..haha my comment ..wtf is wrong with you fool?? 🤔🤔
Im thoroughly disgusted...ha ! More so than originally...with Malone.🙄
Wow. This is sad and troubling. Malone needs to let it go and the Breggins need to stop being all or nothing. Global predation and mass formation work together.
if this is accurate, the truth is far darker: https://ia904609.us.archive.org/1/items/dr.-robert-malone-dark-vaccine-wizard/DR.%20ROBERT%20MALONE%20-%20DARK%20VACCINE%20WIZARD.pdf
G_d bless you, Dr. Yoho. You have some real trolls in your Comments section. Thanks for bringing the receipts.
I was so amazed when you repeatedly referred to the book "Political Ponerology" in your podcast. Usually only the few remaining old Cold Warriors and their former students know of that extraordinary book. Perhaps you could educate your readers & listeners further into how to identify the propaganda & agitprop techniques used heavily over the past century. It could help them identify the operatives & agents not only among ostensible "elites" and "authority figures" in our own movements, but also among the social media commenters. There are clearly a few notable ones in your own Comments section and their techniques & slippery re-calibrations are transparent as daylight once people have been trained to know what the techniques are.
Yes, global predation and mass formation work together. That's not the dispute. The dispute is almost entirely over whether mass formation during Covid was induced or spontaneous. Breggin says induced. Desmet says spontaneous.
Breggin is correct, period. Read what he says about Desmet then read Desmet's defense, which actually supports what Breggin is saying.
Breggin: https://breggin.com/article-detail/post_detail/The-Desmet-Malone-Ideology-of-Mass-Psychosis-Blames-the-Citizens-and-Not-the-Global-Predators
Desmet: https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/am-i-an-expert-in-mass-formation?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
That seems like dancing on the head of a pin. Only 30% of people get brainwashed. Why are they brainwashable? They lack resilience and have a strong need to be cool. Breggin has his guns solely on the elites and the practitioners. He always has. That is his signature. But for every Red Guard there is a dissident. Maybe there are fewer of them but they are there. I find Desmet's approach empowering.
Desmet says there was no conspiracy: Covid lunacy was spontaneous.
Do you really believe that? That 24/7 news coverage of Covid, suppression of safe drugs, censoring dissident doctors was all just spontaneous lunacy? That medical journals throwing up bogus studies to prove hydroxychloroquine was unsafe and didn't work was just a bit of lunacy? That health departments and pharmacies working against the distribution of a drug used safely for decades and used in very modest doses to prevent serious Covid was all just spontaneous lunacy?
Anyone who understands what happened with hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and other safe drugs knows that the suppression of these drugs was carefully orchestrated and not just spontaneous mass formation.
Has anyone said suppression of those drugs was not orchestrated? I believe Desmet posits that totalitarians create Mass Formation does he not? Certain societal conditions exist, loneliness, free floating anxiety, anger at the system such that the stage is ripe for totalitarian influence.
No. In chapter 8 of Desmet's book he asserts that mass formation is driven not by conspiracy but by ideology. Everyone is captured by the formation, even the elite who take advantage of it.
In other words: large-scale psychological manipulation of the population through the use of professional social psychologists and social engineers, etc., does not exist. Do you believe that?
Read carefully what Breggin says about Desmet.
Desmet says there was no conspiracy or did he say there was no carefully orchestrated and only top down micro-management of a phenomenon to depopulate the world? We have no proof yet that this was a depopulation scheme. Yeadon says it was but he provides only circumstantial evidence.
You make valid points. How would you provide such proof?
Spot on!
Not to add gas to this fire, but both can be true - induced or spontaneous. Not that I take spontaneous literally as many seem to do. The pandemic mafia has been at work for a very long time imagining a fatality rate ~ 30% (+/-) which SARs-2 was not anywhere near that. The mafia implemented many of the features needed for mass death. In this process fear was engendered via the Trusted news Initiative.
Our military in preparation for the next war involving biologics needed a rapid vaccine platform and dreamed that a mRNA might be the way so has funded that. Errors in Wuhan created the opportunity to produce that mRNA vaccine. We might forgive a vaccine that protects against a high IFR with considerable damage along the way but would be less tolerant of such a vaccine for a low IFR. In this pandemic the vaccine has proved less than promised.
Then we have the globalists wishing to conquer the civilized world attempting to captialize on the new normal. They play into the hands of the big government types who wish control everything themselves. Both angling to accumulate riches for themselves. All with the backdrop of human greed. Nothing new to any of that. And they both want to prey on citizens consumed by fear.
So yep induced but crowd dynamics of public hysteria wishing to be relieved of that irrational fear - spontaneous combustion.
Perhaps. And perhaps this was all planned to induce fear and get people to the ultimate goal: vaccine passports = road to track/trace system.
I believe the goal of track/trace and monitor/manage everyone on the planet is the end goal. Think of the $$$! And the control.
I do not believe that the public goes around with baggage of anxiety waiting to be tapped into and channeled into a mass formation. People have normal anxiety about jobs, kids, school, etc. Normal stuff. Left alone, we're fine and have been fine. It's only when we layer on irrational and fictional fears, like that of non-existent CO2 catastrophe or a virus whose lethality is greatly exaggerated and for which early treatment is deliberately withheld, do we get a mass formation "psychosis." Then people start acting crazy yet so many want to say "look at those stupid people wearing masks still" as if they, and not the manipulation on high, are the problem.
A lot of people are busy or have other interests and believe they can trust "the news." That doesn't make them bad people. Yet Malone/Desmet say in essence that it's their own damn fault.
I see the mass hysteria is the degree that people accepted limitations on their freedom rights. While a short period is something most would accept, the extended period was excessive, but people went along with it. It's that acceptance by most that I see as a mass formation. Given that perpetual fear has some limiting factors (China 3 years?), we tolerated it for much too long. In spite of red states opening up, others demonized the effort and many blue states continued for way too long.
And when you pointed them to articles and videos saying otherwise they called you a "conspiracy theorist" and laughed at you. Even if these were put out by icons like Fauci, the CDC or Tedros. "We can never go back to normal."
Except that the "acceptance" wasn't mass formation but individual cowardice and the willingness to give up personal identity and sovereignty for the mental and physical slavery promised by "you will own nothing and be happy"; well, we will own nothing alright but we won't be happy!
If desperate enough they'll sell themselves for bread--made of chitin.
Yes, it is a both/and scenario.
I do NOT understand.
I read Dr Malone's substack and not the Breggins', except for this tome.
It appears there is great resentment by Malone for the Breggins' statements but I have no idea what exactly those statements were or why he objected to them and this tome makes no specific mention of the actual details in the controversy.
I have to say it is a cryin' shame that people, basically on the same side, intent on helping humanity are being so obtuse to each other. Certainly, suing for $25 million is obtuse but I have not heard what or how Malone's resentment could be that LARGE. WHAT in the world did the Breggins say?!
EDIT, now 3 mo later:
Eventually I did find out what they were and realized that, to my estimation, Dr Malone went way too far in his offensive actions to prevent Breggins disagreement(which is all it was) with his point of view. Although I am still subscribed to Malone's stack(no refunds), I will not re-up. Mainly, only because he appears to react overly to this slight. The slight I believe is only that: He believes and reinforces Dezmet that it is the fault of the receivers of propaganda being influenced because they cannot resolve the cognitive dissonance of the propaganda vs reality and Breggins believes in placing the blame where it belongs-- at the feet of the real perps. [Jim Reagan, below, gives a better rendition!] . . . I agree with Jim and the Breggins.
I cannot recall; will try to edit again later, but a lady financial consultant, had a great review of this kerfuffle that called a spade a spade and, to me, settles any debate.
Malone: Withdraw and apoloogize.
They criticized the notion of Mass Formation because they believe it lets the global predators off the hook. It does not. But there must be more to get Malone this upset.
Malone actively dismisses the idea that the powers that be are attempting to usher in a New World Order.
No he does not. Malone has been very clear that he believes in the global conspiracy. He has written about that consistently. The question remains whom are the powers and how are they doing it? How did they execute this particular plan?
Interesting. Honestly I quit following Malone awhile ago so I am admittedly not an expert in the nuances of his opinions. When i did follow him I caught some inconsistencies and contradictions so I turned my attention to folks who seemed more genuine. It's true that I need to be careful assuming that I understand someone's intentions based on some scraps of their public life. That being said- for the time being, based on grandiosity of this lawsuit- I don't trust him ;)
I agree with OS Councelor. I’ve watched Dr. Malone many times discuss this very thing. He lives in the same reality I live in. The Breggins owe an apology - a 25 million dollar apology.
Hi troll hunter- can you put link of video here?
Honestly, I don't know why I jumped on this article this morning... I don't pay much attention to Malone because of my aforementioned suspicions of him and it is a serious thing to accuse someone of being part of the Deep State NWO apparatus. I don't have enough knowledge of Malone to prove anything. I think I had some of my negative impressions of him validated by the tacky (IMO) lawsuit and got caught up in the hype. Also, i am partial to the Breggins....
Commenting was probably a little self indulgent on my part. I should probably walk away from this thread altogether and spend time with my kids!
That being said, if you have a video of Malone discussing the NWO I would be open to hearing it from the horse's mouth.
yep, I failed to read the link where this was described, thanks. Sometimes I need help waking up. . . ha! and yes, gee, there MUST be more, right?
Even if Malone does not believe he is "letting them off the hook" it is just an opinion not grounds for libel. How in the world could his lawyer logically figure this is a winning position for him?
If this is ALL there is, to me, it really makes me question HIS overall credibility. Kind of reminds me of the statement Dr. Trozzi made in which he soberly questions whether Apollo moonshots ever landed on the moon. Totally weird.
No, you have it wrong. Breggin's point is that the mass formation during Covid was deliberately induced. Yes, people had a responsibility and of course there were many protests and these protests were the only thing truly spontaneous during the induced mass formation. But notice how these protests were suppressed, doctors were censored and fired for speaking up, and safe and effective drugs were deliberately suppressed in order to continue the fear campaign that amplified the mass formation as health organizations and the media moved in lockstep based on deliberately cherry-picked data and suppression of contrary data, so that everyone could stand up and say "we're following the data." Breggin says it was all deliberate and planned, and this is exactly what RFK, Jr., says as well. Desmet specifically says there was no conspiracy. And now Malone is working hard to suppress the idea of conspiracy by breaking Breggin's kneecaps.
Malone is the one splitting the resistance and creating an opposition within the opposition. This is insidious.
Mass formation is real. Breggin and Desmet both know this although might call it different things. Malone is pretending that the dispute is over the reality of mass formation. It is not. The core of the dispute is over whether this formation was spontaneous or induced during Covid.
Guess what? If we hadn't suppressed Dr. Ioannidis' initial take on Covid fatality and the clear age stratification, if we hadn't suppressed hydroxychloroquine and then ivermectin and other safe treatments, if we hadn't suppressed doctors promoting these treatments, if we hadn't given Covid 24/7 news coverage that was largely fabricated, if we had allowed working people who had little susceptibility to Covid get on with their lives, if we'd advised calm instead of panic, then there would have been no mass formation for what was largely a bad flu. Covid would have existed in the background, where it belonged. If our health agencies were truly working for the people they would've pooled clinical evidence for treatment from doctors all over the country (like Dr. Zelenko) and we'd have emerged from Covid relatively unscathed. But, that wasn't the point, was it? The point was a mass formation of fear. Desmet just has the wrong end of the stick.
Extremely well stated!
Are you saying that every action on this chain of events was a coordinated aspect of a grand conspiracy that was launched and managed by some people somewhere who had the power to dictate behaviors?
That is exactly what I'm saying.
That "power" was the inducement of what Desmet calls mass formation. They created the fear, they amplified it. They control the media. They control the CDC and the FDA and Tony Fauci.
"They" want a Great Reset, and for them the end justifies the means. This is why they set forward the bogus theory of catastrophic CO2 warming, which now looks very much like a tool to induce another "mass formation" of fear when (bogus) studies come out telling us that tipping points are imminent and we need to act now.
We're at a tipping point where technology can be used to monitor and manage everyone on the planet. Individual self-determination-- the bedrock ideal of America-- will die when that happens. "Emergencies" like Covid will be used to usher in this new social credit system, and what better emergency than the potential death of the very planet?
Malone has been very silent on the implications of the theory of catastrophic CO2 warming and how that theory is the moral foundation for the Great Reset, without which the Reset is completely unnecessary. I was always curious about this because it's so blatant.
Imminent global catastrophe would be a convenient "emergency" to launch a track/trace system they so desire because of course it'll be "necessary" to monitor everyone's carbon footprint, for the greater good and to save the planet. And then we can install the Langan/Malone program of anti-dysgenics, which is eugenics spelled backwards, so that we'd need permission to reproduce because of course over-population is the root cause of our supposed planetary emergency.
Great Post. I could not be more convinced. I may be leaving Malone's newsletter if he does not change course. Whether he is controlled opposition or is ego expanding is immaterial-- both wrong courses.
EDIT, 3 mo later: I TRIED to leave but the cancel subscription I tried must not have "taken"! I see that I am still subscribed and there are no refunds for cutting out. . . early.
I would ONLY add : "they control the DoD who likewise, control the media and other Fed Depts too"
Exactly!
YES!
You are right to be skeptical. I was too at first.
Do some research. There's some stuff even on YouTube. Plenty on Substack. Pat Wood sums it up best. It's called Technocracy. The John Birch Society also has information. Be ready to separate wheat from chaff. A lot of chaff out there. Q for instance. And look at the WEF website. The "conspirators" don't admit to genocide (of course) but they do want a one world government where they'll own everything and take care of the rest of us. They really, really wanted a needle in every arm.
Well stated. Victim politics is sexy. It sells. Resilience is boring.
You're missing the point of the Breggin-Malone dispute.
Edit: I've read the Malone lawsuit. Breggin has been calling him out as opposition for some time, so Malone has a leg to stand on.
When it gets to the courts of course they'll side with Malone because "there's no conspiracy, just a mass formation."
For the life of me it certainly looks like Malone is fighting the wrong battle and that Breggin is 100% right about Desmet, whom Malone defends even though he must understand what the core dispute is about and that Breggin is in fact correct. But Malone is steering his followers into "there was no conspiracy camp" despite that on the one hand he might assert that there was. It's a subtle and deceptive game he's playing. Desmet is wrong about what actually happened during Covid: it was carefully planned, coordinated, and executed to induce a mass formation. The only thing spontaneous was the resistance.
Malone has shown us all his true colors and the lengths he'll go to, to defend his "no conspiracy, just a mass formation" stance.
Now everyone will be afraid to cross Malone. That's the point of the lawsuit, no?
Quite right and it is a very realistic fear that the courts will automatically side with Malone by focusing on the "conspiracy theory" aspect with claims that there is no definitive evidence to support such a claim; of course a lot of evidence does support such a claim with more coming out all the time; but the courts will follow the politically correct narrative backed by all of the fake science and the paid for shills of big pharma and the usual government hacks; once again this has all the earmarks of a well planned strategy orchestrated by Malone's puppetmasters who intend to destroy any serious opposition to reaching their goal of global mastery; and, as usual, the facts and the truth will be buried and Malone and his supporters will claim the kind of victory we have become accustomed to from watching stolen elections.
Yes, and the fact is at this point in time "we" do NOT know it is solid fact that "they" are orchestrating the entire debacle unfolding here. It will be nigh impossible to find / show provable connections between the WEF, for example, and the US DoD and subsequent down-feed of command and control into various Fed. Departments and MSM. "They" have all the US and international security systems(MI6, CIA, FBI, DoD, NSA, etc etc) controlling the "PROJECT".
We have only. . . God on our side. hmmmm.
I believe it is an integrity defense, not a dispute about facts or conspiracies.
none of these ideas have merit. Malone is burning Breggin by spending his money on lawyers. Win or lose, makes no difference. Here is how it works:
• Using lawsuits, rich people sometimes sue middle-class people to force them to pay ruinous lawyers’ fees. These expenses are like buying paperclips for the wealthy, and winning or losing—or even the issues litigated—are typically unimportant to them. Here is one example, and others are legion. Some New York apartment co-ops are inhabited by people worth tens of millions. But if they allow the wrong billionaire psychopath into their midst, he can dominate them using litigation threats. The co-op admission committees typically ask for twenty (20) references, then turn many people down anyway.
• I came in contact with a wealthy doctor who sued patients, and patients sued him. He also sued tenants, suppliers, and even moving companies. Some of his tenants won countersuits. One of his patients sued him for malpractice, lost the countersuit, and spent ten years trying to get the judgment overturned. When everyone finally walked away, the court had seized her house. After it was sold, there was no money left for the doctor when the loan, realtors, and bankruptcy trustee were paid. By the end, this woman’s total lawyer bills were $500,000. The doctor must have enjoyed it all because it was not profitable. I was informally sympathetic to this woman, so he called and threatened me. On another occasion, he tried to get me thrown out of our professional organization. I had to defend myself in front of a committee and they told us to stay away from each other—wise advice, for I was abrasive in those days.
You mean from Mr. Integrity himself? Who has no qualms about threatening an elderly couple with financial ruin and litigation headaches? I think Mr. Integrity lacks basic Decency.
That's BS!
You're being willfully blind. Read what Breggin says about Desmet to clear your head.
Jim you don't have to argue with trolls
Ha ha ha as if I care to stalk anyone. You happen to be someone who comments and therefore I comment back.