Extremely good, Catherine is great, as always. agree completely on the mass formation and Malone, Desmet et al.... Malone is more than 'just' an inventor of mRNA gene therapies, which he continues to call falsely 'vaccines'! One of my first substacks posts was about the evolutionary biologist, Malone and Kirsch... For some strange reason nobody wants to read it, despite of being essential in the coverup of that 'meeting'. ANyone interested can find it at: https://mejbcart.substack.com/p/dr-bret-weinstein-yuri-deigin-and
There appear to be a lot of intelligent people who post on this substack, with that said, has any of them ever thought or posted that maybe this lawsuit is brought on by blackmail by the cabal? Have any of you watched any of Whitney Webb's interviews or read her book "One Nation Under Blackmail?" Could be that Malone was told to or blackmailed to file the lawsuit. Then again maybe not.
This is one of a range of unsavory possibilities but I try to avoid public speculation. Fitts is close to Malone and her ideas have the highest chances of being right.
I'm no expert. Your comment is questionable to me, for example, "Canada for example has over one million health damaging & death inducing toxic sites." You belong on alex Epstein's comment section, not here. See if he thinks you are credible.
Katherine Austin Fitts, Thank you especially for your call during the latter part of your missive for Dr. Robert Malone to 'debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight') Dr. Peter Breggin. Unfortunately 99.9% of people today (Dr. Malone?), indoctrinated in false 'education' (Latin 'educare' = 'to-lead-forth-from-within'), confuse 'debate' with a passive process of strong disagreement, like 'water-under-a-bridge' uncaptured. Real debate is active, formal, scheduled, limited-time, Both-sided, Equal-time, Recorded & Published (or in someway shared). Debate was all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (L 'self-generating') COUNCIL-PROCESS, a universal right for all people in all relationships at every level. Debate as in Socrates dialectic Academia (Athens outside 'garden of Academus') tradition died in what is false academia, almost immediately after Socrates execution. Mohandas Gandhi as part of India's 'Swadeshi' (Hindi 'Indigenous' aka 'Self-sufficiency') movement employed India's ancient Council Process as 'Satyagraha' (H. 'Truth-search') in order to bring all India's diverse religious, class, ethnic & professions into formal dialogue. It was these dialogues which helped India unite & succeed in 'Swaraj' (H. 'Self-rule'). For humanity to lovingly & creatively reorganize itself in mutual-aid, we must realize that Council starts with each one of us engaging our brothers & sisters in formal dialogue for the issues which we feel most concerned. When we can debate & unite around our basic issues, people will be surprised how strong we have become at all other levels on all other issues. The more popular formal dialogue becomes again among all in our regular lives, then the more indigenous, humanity then returns to be. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
People need to know the big difference between "Psychopathy" and "Psychosis", that is , a "psychopath" and a "psychotic individual."
I wrote a short comment elsewhere about this but will not share the link unless requested.
The "problem I have" with Dr. Malone is that I beleive "once CIA, always CIA."
The "problem I have with psychiatry" and is that often psychiatrists have the same view of the nature of man as do the weapons creators and purveyors of “vaccines.”.
COVID-19 is a bioweapon; it is not a strategy.
COVID-19 IS NOT a "novel zoonotic coronavirus." that is, it did not come into being by an animal "virus" jumping species into a human being. It is NOT a natural pathogen. It is a lab-created bioweapon pathogen.
SARS-CoV-2 was never scientifically isolated,
In order to make a "vaccine"" against a pathogen, it is necessary to have a complete genome of the pathogen and that implies that the pathogen has been isolated.
One of the major strategies of the “pandemic” was to hurry and get a vaccine and then hurry and get everyone to take that vaccine.
Reminds me of the same kind of strategy used to enforce the official narrative of 9-11-01.
Amazon indicates that "they can't find that page" where your book is, and therefore I can't write a review for you....same old tactics again...to give Malone some slack, he may not be used to this kind of 'refiner's fire' as Catherine calls it (great analogy). And yes, I think the Kennedy's learn this skill because of their constant contact with the surrounding milieu. I am a member of Children's Health Defense and support RFK JR's work. I bought Breggin's book when it first came out, and because I was a subscriber to their website, like what you have done, I also had a chance to download this massive tome beforehand. It is 600 pages and has detailed citations. VERY well researched!
I want to say though that we cannot allow the predators to dictate our behavior with each other!
Love Catherine and this was an excellent podcast. I was not aware Dr. Malone had political aspirations. In a documentary he recently did (while in Spain, I think it was), he said this Covid nonsense was really messing with his retirement and he enjoyed his ranch and horses. Does not make sense that he would go back to work. Who does that? 😎
I loved Desmet's book! I thought it was fascinating because he was articulating things that I had observed and was pondering. I have recommended his book to many people. Whenever I recommend it, I always tell them that I disagree with the chapter on conspiracy theories because I think there is more than enough evidence that a conspiracy (several) happened and is ongoing. But, even so, I think there were excellent points about how not everything is a conspiracy and sometimes like-minded individuals are drawn together and end up harming other people due to their ambitions and group think and it's not always a well-planned out coordinated event. Sometimes it really is just human greed for power, money, and or incompetence.
After having a few lengthy discussions with other commenters on what the terms "Mass Formation" and "Mass Psychosis" mean, it's possible that they will end up being used as a tool to excuse harmful behavior, but it also feels a bit like splitting hairs. Either way, someone mentioned that they prefer the term "Mass Hysteria" to either of the former two terms and I agree that it's a good fit for what we saw, and it's not tied to a diagnosis that might be used as a legal defense or some such other nonsense. So, I'll be using the term moving forwards. I still love the book and think it has valuable insights.
I also love Katherine Austin Fitts and her unique perspective from the financial angle. I have appreciated all the voices of dissent towards "the narrative", and I see them as all being valuable. Sometimes there are multiple ways to view a situation and they can sound different, but all can have value. Sometimes people get things wrong. That's okay. The lawsuit seems completely ridiculous, and I hope it fails. Maybe there are details that I am not aware of that make the lawsuit make sense but until then, I hope the Breggins prevail.
BTW, I clicked on the link to get to the book and it's showing that the "page is not found". If someone has a better link for the book, I would appreciate it.
Yes, I think I understand the psychopaths are definitely at fault, thus my disagreement with the chapter that dismisses a conspiracy. At the same time, I do think there was a sort of “communicable hysteria” that played a roll. In my opinion, the way that it worked is that people would rather do anything than change their diet and lifestyle. So instead of putting down the soda and the cigarettes and the alcohol and the energy drinks and the hamburgers and the chips and the cookies, everybody got on this bandwagon of ‘saving the world through masking and mass forced injections for a magical cure’.
It’s an emotionally easier belief that “science “ can cure the obesity epidemic (since obesity is one of the leading comorbitities associated with covid mortality) than actually doing things that prevent obesity. People had access to good information about comorbidities that played a role and low infection fatality rates etc. and they still chose to follow the ridiculous notion that if we all shut ourselves in our houses long enough, we could halt a respiratory virus. They accepted fake science instead of legitimate science.
I could give so many examples of friends and family who were chastising me for supposedly not taking health seriously because I wouldn’t wear a mask and take an experimental injection while they drank soda, are fast food, baked cookies, and watched endless hours of TV. I had spent the last 10 years of my life trying to encourage people to live a healthier lifestyle through choosing healthier foods so it wasn’t like my friends and family didn’t consider what I was urging them to do, they just rejected what I call ‘the hard truth‘.
Anyway, I guess I personally take a more nuanced approach that both things happened simultaneously. In my view, the psychopaths took advantage of people who wanted the easy “scientism” way out of a health crisis.
i wish all these guys could get along- Malone, Breggin, Berenson. we have too serious a problem to argue over semantics
Everyone should watch this trailer
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/our-birthright-plandemic-3-trailer/
Thank you for calling this valuable perspective to our attention!
Pfizer report
https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/groundbreaking-new-book-sends-shockwaves
Hello
I attempted to write a review on your book, but the link was dead and the book did not turn up on Amazon. Was it banned?
Extremely good, Catherine is great, as always. agree completely on the mass formation and Malone, Desmet et al.... Malone is more than 'just' an inventor of mRNA gene therapies, which he continues to call falsely 'vaccines'! One of my first substacks posts was about the evolutionary biologist, Malone and Kirsch... For some strange reason nobody wants to read it, despite of being essential in the coverup of that 'meeting'. ANyone interested can find it at: https://mejbcart.substack.com/p/dr-bret-weinstein-yuri-deigin-and
Well written and expressed. One prob is that once "psychosis"starts being considered, psych drugs start to seem reasonable. Best
There appear to be a lot of intelligent people who post on this substack, with that said, has any of them ever thought or posted that maybe this lawsuit is brought on by blackmail by the cabal? Have any of you watched any of Whitney Webb's interviews or read her book "One Nation Under Blackmail?" Could be that Malone was told to or blackmailed to file the lawsuit. Then again maybe not.
This is one of a range of unsavory possibilities but I try to avoid public speculation. Fitts is close to Malone and her ideas have the highest chances of being right.
Unlimited Hangout is Whitney's website. Great investigative journalist
https://unlimitedhangout.com/
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/11/investigative-reports/covid-19-mass-formation-or-mass-atrocity/
Thank you Sir! As always right on point with every one of your excellent posts.
I'm no expert. Your comment is questionable to me, for example, "Canada for example has over one million health damaging & death inducing toxic sites." You belong on alex Epstein's comment section, not here. See if he thinks you are credible.
Katherine Austin Fitts, Thank you especially for your call during the latter part of your missive for Dr. Robert Malone to 'debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight') Dr. Peter Breggin. Unfortunately 99.9% of people today (Dr. Malone?), indoctrinated in false 'education' (Latin 'educare' = 'to-lead-forth-from-within'), confuse 'debate' with a passive process of strong disagreement, like 'water-under-a-bridge' uncaptured. Real debate is active, formal, scheduled, limited-time, Both-sided, Equal-time, Recorded & Published (or in someway shared). Debate was all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (L 'self-generating') COUNCIL-PROCESS, a universal right for all people in all relationships at every level. Debate as in Socrates dialectic Academia (Athens outside 'garden of Academus') tradition died in what is false academia, almost immediately after Socrates execution. Mohandas Gandhi as part of India's 'Swadeshi' (Hindi 'Indigenous' aka 'Self-sufficiency') movement employed India's ancient Council Process as 'Satyagraha' (H. 'Truth-search') in order to bring all India's diverse religious, class, ethnic & professions into formal dialogue. It was these dialogues which helped India unite & succeed in 'Swaraj' (H. 'Self-rule'). For humanity to lovingly & creatively reorganize itself in mutual-aid, we must realize that Council starts with each one of us engaging our brothers & sisters in formal dialogue for the issues which we feel most concerned. When we can debate & unite around our basic issues, people will be surprised how strong we have become at all other levels on all other issues. The more popular formal dialogue becomes again among all in our regular lives, then the more indigenous, humanity then returns to be. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
People need to know the big difference between "Psychopathy" and "Psychosis", that is , a "psychopath" and a "psychotic individual."
I wrote a short comment elsewhere about this but will not share the link unless requested.
The "problem I have" with Dr. Malone is that I beleive "once CIA, always CIA."
The "problem I have with psychiatry" and is that often psychiatrists have the same view of the nature of man as do the weapons creators and purveyors of “vaccines.”.
COVID-19 is a bioweapon; it is not a strategy.
COVID-19 IS NOT a "novel zoonotic coronavirus." that is, it did not come into being by an animal "virus" jumping species into a human being. It is NOT a natural pathogen. It is a lab-created bioweapon pathogen.
SARS-CoV-2 was never scientifically isolated,
In order to make a "vaccine"" against a pathogen, it is necessary to have a complete genome of the pathogen and that implies that the pathogen has been isolated.
One of the major strategies of the “pandemic” was to hurry and get a vaccine and then hurry and get everyone to take that vaccine.
Reminds me of the same kind of strategy used to enforce the official narrative of 9-11-01.
Hi,
Amazon indicates that "they can't find that page" where your book is, and therefore I can't write a review for you....same old tactics again...to give Malone some slack, he may not be used to this kind of 'refiner's fire' as Catherine calls it (great analogy). And yes, I think the Kennedy's learn this skill because of their constant contact with the surrounding milieu. I am a member of Children's Health Defense and support RFK JR's work. I bought Breggin's book when it first came out, and because I was a subscriber to their website, like what you have done, I also had a chance to download this massive tome beforehand. It is 600 pages and has detailed citations. VERY well researched!
I want to say though that we cannot allow the predators to dictate our behavior with each other!
Love Catherine and this was an excellent podcast. I was not aware Dr. Malone had political aspirations. In a documentary he recently did (while in Spain, I think it was), he said this Covid nonsense was really messing with his retirement and he enjoyed his ranch and horses. Does not make sense that he would go back to work. Who does that? 😎
I loved Desmet's book! I thought it was fascinating because he was articulating things that I had observed and was pondering. I have recommended his book to many people. Whenever I recommend it, I always tell them that I disagree with the chapter on conspiracy theories because I think there is more than enough evidence that a conspiracy (several) happened and is ongoing. But, even so, I think there were excellent points about how not everything is a conspiracy and sometimes like-minded individuals are drawn together and end up harming other people due to their ambitions and group think and it's not always a well-planned out coordinated event. Sometimes it really is just human greed for power, money, and or incompetence.
After having a few lengthy discussions with other commenters on what the terms "Mass Formation" and "Mass Psychosis" mean, it's possible that they will end up being used as a tool to excuse harmful behavior, but it also feels a bit like splitting hairs. Either way, someone mentioned that they prefer the term "Mass Hysteria" to either of the former two terms and I agree that it's a good fit for what we saw, and it's not tied to a diagnosis that might be used as a legal defense or some such other nonsense. So, I'll be using the term moving forwards. I still love the book and think it has valuable insights.
I also love Katherine Austin Fitts and her unique perspective from the financial angle. I have appreciated all the voices of dissent towards "the narrative", and I see them as all being valuable. Sometimes there are multiple ways to view a situation and they can sound different, but all can have value. Sometimes people get things wrong. That's okay. The lawsuit seems completely ridiculous, and I hope it fails. Maybe there are details that I am not aware of that make the lawsuit make sense but until then, I hope the Breggins prevail.
BTW, I clicked on the link to get to the book and it's showing that the "page is not found". If someone has a better link for the book, I would appreciate it.
Amazon pulled it down. Stay tuned. The point about Desmet is that the psychopaths, not a communicable hysteria, are the root cause. Best
Yes, I think I understand the psychopaths are definitely at fault, thus my disagreement with the chapter that dismisses a conspiracy. At the same time, I do think there was a sort of “communicable hysteria” that played a roll. In my opinion, the way that it worked is that people would rather do anything than change their diet and lifestyle. So instead of putting down the soda and the cigarettes and the alcohol and the energy drinks and the hamburgers and the chips and the cookies, everybody got on this bandwagon of ‘saving the world through masking and mass forced injections for a magical cure’.
It’s an emotionally easier belief that “science “ can cure the obesity epidemic (since obesity is one of the leading comorbitities associated with covid mortality) than actually doing things that prevent obesity. People had access to good information about comorbidities that played a role and low infection fatality rates etc. and they still chose to follow the ridiculous notion that if we all shut ourselves in our houses long enough, we could halt a respiratory virus. They accepted fake science instead of legitimate science.
I could give so many examples of friends and family who were chastising me for supposedly not taking health seriously because I wouldn’t wear a mask and take an experimental injection while they drank soda, are fast food, baked cookies, and watched endless hours of TV. I had spent the last 10 years of my life trying to encourage people to live a healthier lifestyle through choosing healthier foods so it wasn’t like my friends and family didn’t consider what I was urging them to do, they just rejected what I call ‘the hard truth‘.
Anyway, I guess I personally take a more nuanced approach that both things happened simultaneously. In my view, the psychopaths took advantage of people who wanted the easy “scientism” way out of a health crisis.