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The active ingredient in most sunscreens is titanium dioxide which has been shown to cause certain skin cancers. Titanium dioxide has recently been reclassified by the ema as unfit for human consumption and banned from food products across the EU. As titanium dioxide now surrounds the whole planet in the atmosphere, researchers believe it’s the main cause of the huge increase in autoimmune disorders and certain cancers worldwide. This was before the covid jab. Sunscreen should be avoided at all costs

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Indeed!

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Thank you so much for yet another great article! I don't know how and why but you are interested in very similar topics as I am, and most often get to same conclusions as I do. I am a medical scientist with decades of medicine and science behind. But all the medicine and science I was taught and all that is pushed and endorsed could not save me from my many medical problems and poor health I USED to have (not anymore). To make a long story short, the epiphany that everything is upside down and I must do the very opposite of what doctors recommend saved my health and life. Period. And I mean - everything! From the food pyramid, to the glasses and eyes story, to the sun exposure, from the "high cholesterol" danger and avoiding wholesome foods to the "benefits" of vaccines, etc etc. So yes, there you have it- your needed story about the lies of dermatologists, the natural ways to help vision and benefits of sun and natural light very much resonated with me- as other of your stories. To summarize my own approach (after personal research and experience on my own) - I have used natural or full spectrum lights where I work for decades, spend HOURS outside daily, exercise my eyes in a few ways, including the yoga recommendation you mention about (looking to the rising sun for short time), do not wear sunglasses usually except when I drive in sunny days, never used sun screen! and exposed carefully to sun as often as I could, do NOT wear my vision glasses ( .75 and .5 for decades!) except when I drive and I am tired, PLUS I do take natural supplements and antioxidants such as the relevant vitamins and astaxanthine, some zeaxanthine and a few others... And- very important- stay the hell away from doctors as much as I can for goodness sake!! Needless to say that when the covid PLANdemic stroke I was early on ready, aware of the traps, avoided their "treatments" and bioweapon and such. Again, it's easy - just do the opposite of what mainstream BS medicine recommends and you stay safe and healthy! That's my main discovery after I dedicated my life and career to medicine and science - pretty pathetic world...

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You are my kind of gurl ha.

You mentioned everything but checking the mouth first.

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HAY! I found u hear. Bobby https://ramgbs.wordpress.com/

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" We are told that melanoma incidence has multiplied even in this era of sunscreen and sun avoidance. But this is dishonest reporting; the proper measure, melanoma deaths, has remained the same. "

I am not sure I am understanding any dishonesty here. Maybe the reason the number of deaths can remain the same even when it is true that incidence has multiplied. Maybe people are very much more aware of when going to the doctor and getting early detection makes successful treatment much better.

Years ago, malignant melanoma was sort of a death sentence the minute the diagnosis was reached. Maybe, and I do not know this for sure, early detection/diagnosis and better treatments are a working good combination, for now, that is.

I wanted to say something positive and upbeat but I have consumed so much negative information from many sources all around me today so I will just say...

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Ephesians 6:12

For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places .

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reread the section with the graph from Butchered by "Healthcare"

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Nice discussion here. I realize this thread is supposed to dwindle and die now, but so many major conclusions are showing up at this point in time. It is good to know the truth but it can be a big downer.

I have begun to understand that it really is not possible to have truly objective, optimally designed studies.

I know from non-medical related government work that statistics are changed and manipulated for political agendas all the time. Also for the lowest level data entry of data positions there are zero controls or checks on input accuracy. GIGO happens and can't say "nobody died."

I remember many years ago a family member who is an M.D. candidly commented that the only studies that actually get done are the ones where the pharma company wants that study to happen.

Pharma scientist, Dr. Michael Yeadon recently wrote an article,

Exposing The Darkness

Dr. Mike Yeadon: You’re Being Lied to About Chicken Influenza

The same thing appears to be happening again. Oddly enough, it’s precisely the same cast of characters as last time.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-145408239

Ho hum, another bombshell finding ....

"whatever the causes of acute respiratory illnesses, they are NOT CONTAGIOUS. "

Germ theory, virology, and contagion are on the chopping block.

Good news is uptake of Moderna and other "COVID vaccines" are at an all-time low. Now for a little dark humor, Moderna plans to just mix in the COVID Vax ingredients with next season's flu shots to sell off the unused vax ingredients.

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My initial thoughts regarding epidemiology of melanoma--incidence and mortality: the incidence has probably multiplied due to the increasing dermatology screenings and primary care docs referring to dermatology every time there's a changing mole. The condition is diagnosed much more, but at early stages before it has 'spread.' (I don't like this word, but that's how people talk about it.). I know somebody who goes every six months to have suspicious moles surgically removed and analyzed. It is perhaps difficult to die from melanoma under these extreme 'prevention' conditions. People with early-stage diagnoses are more likely to die of other things. (Other conditions related to the poisons and deviations from ancestral essentials that gave them the moles in the first place.)

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You have caught it, but not quite. Increased screening makes increased diagnoses, but when mortality is dead flat, the phenomenon is a fraud, and no conclusions can be drawn.

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'The phenomenon is fraud' Mind is spinning. That is a great phrase and I'm going to start using it. I guess the old epidemiologist in me was expressing myself--eager to offer a decent description of my observations. And I still feel the trigger to describe what I think may be happening. An observation that may actually be useful in describing the fraudulent PHENOMENA : Statistical RATES reported today look fancy but many are made up. If one looks closely at the definitions of the denominators and numerators, many post-covid rates are calculated using Bayesian algorithms, where somebody gets to guess what the inputs are, somebody else gets to run the calculations however many times they'd like, and somebody else gets to decide which answer to use. These techniques were not taught when I was in grad school. I used to analyze the SEERS Cancer Registry back in the 90s and 00s. Back then, we actually COUNTED people to create numerators and denominators, and everybody in the numerator also had to be in the denominator. We also had to validate our statistical assumptions and show that we chose a good technique to answer each question. Even then, the data showed something different than the narrative. 1) Age-adjusted incidence was increasing in just about everything, showing that people were being diagnosed with cancer earlier in life. Toxicologists blamed the environment and industrialists claimed that screening was effective, which was also not true, because I also studied cancer screenings. 2) Age-adjusted mortality among those with clinical illness (later stage) was not improving. The American Cancer Society stopped publishing these charts in their annual publications. My conclusion was: treatments are fraud. Have I found a peer who sees fraud in everything? ... Fraud in the diagnostics (everything is probably a unique expression of either malnutrition or poisoning, likely a changing array of these factors interacting & expressing in unique ways), the prognostics are fear-promoting voodoo that assume nobody is capable of moving towards ancestral, the 'treatments' add on new levels of poisons, and the suppression of knowledge that would allow for humans to recovery & thrive is the underlying criminal mission? Thank you for your excellent work. -Recovering Epidemiologist

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This is sophisticated. The big fraud is the relative and absolute risks; it is used universally in medical "science" now, and the MDs have little background to understand it. Suffice it to say that we can beleve nothiing because if the statistics were not ruined, the original inputs were.

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Low 25-hydroxyvitamin D raises the risk of macular degeneration: https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/9/10/1120. Most people - who do not supplement vitamin D3 properly (often 5 to 10 times what governments and many doctors recommend) and who have not recently had a lot of UV-B exposure of (ideally white) skin - have half or less of the circulating (in the blood stream) 25 hydroxyvitamin D their immune system needs to function properly, which is 50 ng/mL, AKA 125 nmol/L. This is 1 part in 20,000,000 by mass.

Please see the research articles cited and discussed at: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/.

The most important nutritional supplement, by far, is vitamin D3. Please see: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/#00-how-much for New Jersey based Professor of Medicine Prof. Sunil Wimalawansa's recommendations https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/14/2997 for vitamin D3 supplemental intake to attain at least the 50 ng/mL (125 nmol/L) circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D, which the immune system needs to function properly. As he noted in a recent FLCCC webinar, the following ranges of ratios are a slightly simplified and adjusted version of what he recommended in the above article https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/Weeekly_Webinar_Aug16_2023:d?t=3386

The average daily vitamin D3 intake should be:

70 to 90 IU / kg body weight for those not suffering from obesity (BMI < 30).

100 to 130 IU / kg body weight for obesity I & II (BMI 30 to 39).

140 to 180 IU / kg body weight for obesity III (BMI > 39).

This is because obesity reduces the efficiency with which vitamin D3 is converted, primarily in the liver, to the circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D the immune system needs: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/#obesity-deficit .

For 70 kg (154 lb) without obesity, this is about 0.125 milligrams (5000 IU) a day. This takes several months to attain the desired > 50 ng/mL circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D.

Hydroxylation in the liver takes several days to convert about 1/4 of ingested or UV-produced vitamin D3 cholecalciferol into the circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D the immune system needs.

For average weight adults, an oral dose of 1mg calcifediol, which *is* 25-hydroxyvitamin D, raises the circulating level safely over 50 ng/mL in about 4 hours, because it is more easily absorbed than vitamin D3 (having two hydroxyl groups rather than one, making it more water soluble), so it goes straight into circulation. Calcifediol is hard to obtain in the USA with one important non-prescription exception: 100 of these 0.01 mg tablets is 1 milligram https://dvelopimmunity.com/products/vitamin-d. More information on calcifediol: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/04-calcifediol/#06-dvelop.

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You should meet Henry Lahore at vitaminDwiki.com

I have an interview in my archives.

My D level is 130 ng/ml

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Henry and I loosely collaborate on raising awareness of the need for vitamin D supplementation. We both are from electrical engineering backgrounds. Most people's low level of 25-hydroxyvitamin D, compared to what their immune system needs to function properly, looks much like an inadequate power supply voltage which needs to be fixed ASAP. In electronics, we would fix it in seconds or minutes. In medicine, since so many doctors and immunologists are so uninterested in vitamin D and nutrition in general, it will probably take decades.

130 ng/mL 25-hydroxyvyitamin D is well above the 50 ng/mL needed for proper immune system function. My level is probably a little under 100 ng/mL. As far as I know, for all or almost all people, this is safe - except perhaps if their doctors relies on inadequate recommendations and so might pitch a fit if their patients had such levels.

Some people report heart palpitations when taking what for other people would be a healthy, and I believe necessary, amount of vitamin D3, such as 0.125 mg 125 micrograms 5000 IU a day, on average. https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/#adv I have not found mention of this in the peer reviewed literature, but that doesn't mean these observations should be ignored.

I have no formal qualifications in any field, and I am yet to research the following suggestions as well as I would like, but it is my impression that with 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels much above 50 ng/mL, it is probably not necessary, and may be harmful, to supplement calcium, assuming the diet contains sufficient calcium, whatever that is. Doctors who work with the Coimbra and other, similar protocols, often reaching 25-hydroxyvitamin D of 150 ng/mL and beyond, to suppress multiple sclerosis, and other auto-immune disorders, not least cluster headaches and migraine: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/06-adv/#01-higher require their patients not only to avoid calcium supplements but to avoid calcium-rich foods and drink plenty of water.

Supplemental vitamin K2 is widely regarded as being beneficial on its own, and also for maintaining calcium in the bone, and reducing the chance of excessive levels in the bloodstream, which can occur with extremely high levels (usually over 150 ng/mL 375 nmol/L) of 25-hydroxyvitamin D.

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Thanks for your service. Supplementing calcium serves no known purpose that I know of. Henry informally recommended D levels above 100 for my Parkinson's. Jeff Bowles's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Miraculous-Results-Extremely-Sunshine-Experiment/dp/1491243821 has many anecdotes about high D levels.

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Here is a potentially interesting preprint: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.05.03.24306800v2 "Anti-tetanus vaccination is associated with reduced occurrence and slower progression of Parkinson’s disease".

One or the authors is Ariel Israel, who did some great research into 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels in Israel, with very fine statistical analysis of the distribution of levels, in different populations there. Arab (and so Muslim, with lots of covering clothing) women had by far the lowest levels: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.04.20188268v1 https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/#03-uk-low .

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Robin: see either or both of the following

Dissolving Illusions

Turtles All the Way Down

Vaccines are ALL purpose built bioweapons against us.

Best

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I am very sorry to learn that you have Parkinson's Disease. All such neurodegenerative diseases are conventionally regarded as being incurable, leading to greater physical and cognitive disability, and ultimately death.

While high 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels reduce the risk of contracting this and, in general, other such neurodegenerative conditions, I imagine that this protective action occurs over decades, including long before symptoms become apparent.

At https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/#3.3 I cite and discuss research on 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels and neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer's disease. This includes research which shows that Parkinson's disease, multiple system atrophy and dementia with Lewy bodies are all essentially the same condition. They all involve misfolding of the alpha-synuclein protein. The patterns of the misfolding has been shown to differ between the three separately diagnosed conditions, although the exact details of the misfolding were not known.

One misfolded protein catalyses further proteins misfolding in the same pattern forming an agglomeration. This is somehow able to spread between cells and/or arise spontaneously in multiple cells. I guess this is similar to the formation of a crystal, except that these are big, sloppy, molecules compares to the smaller, more rigid, molecules which form precisely ordered crystals.

This section of my page links to 113 testimonials, which seem not to have been added to since 2022 when I first looked at them, and which may have been updated only to 2016 or so, since the second last one mentions 2000 being "16 years ago": https://www.coimbraprotocol.com/testimonials-1

My section lists the auto-immune inflammatory diseases reported in these testimonials, all of which were successfully suppressed by the Coimbra protocol. More than half of these concern multiple sclerosis, which is conventionally regarded as being incurable.

There is no mention of neurodegenerative diseases, but I found two Facebook pages, with videos, which depict Parkinson's disease sufferers who made significant recoveries from Parkinson's disease after being treated according to the Coimbra protocol. The first https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=199159654612033 depicts a man playing piano, and the second https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2685771758134757 depicts the sufferer, who posted the video and wrote the accompanying text, riding his bike.

These are not clinical reports in peer-reviewed journals, but I have no reason to believe they are fake. Assuming they depict real people, then this is a cause for some hope that the progression of Parkinson's disease can, for some people at least, be slowed, halted or even reversed.

As far as I know, vitamin D researchers and clinicians have no interest in helminthic therapy, which is based on the hypothesis (which I think is entirely valid and extremely important) that the human immune system evolved to be overly strong in its inflammatory (indiscriminate cell-destroying) responses due to helminths (intestinal worms) emitting one or more compounds which downmodulate these responses. It is these inflammatory responses which best tackle multicellular parasites like helminths, since anti-bodies and macrophages, which work well on viruses, cancer cells, bacteria and fungal/yeast single cell pathogens are useless against a large, multicellular organism with protective outer layers of cells.

This Helminthic Therapy site has a page on Parkinson's disease: https://www.helminthictherapywiki.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy_and_Parkinson%27s_disease. It cites a 2015 article, Cheng et al.: Overcoming Evolutionary Mismatch by Self-Treatment with Helminths: Current Practices and Experience https://www.ashdin.com/abstract/overcoming-evolutionary-mismatch-by-selftreatment-with-helminths-current-practices-and-experience-3226.html .

I have only glanced at this article, but it mentions two reports of Parkinson's disease being suppressed by helminthic therapy. The article is in a journal which is not indexed in PubMed: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/journals/. This means it may be a predatory journal. This is a murky area. Generally, conventional peer-reviewed articles avoid citing articles in predatory journals, or at least those not indexed in PubMed.

However, Google Scholar reports 55 citing articles: https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?cites=5443432945037263261&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=en, one of which is "

Gross ways to live long: Parasitic worms as an anti-inflammaging therapy?" https://elifesciences.org/articles/65180 in the PubMed listed journal eLife.

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thanks for your efforts putting this together.

I'm trying to figure out my best path among a surfeit of choices. Chlorine dioxide, the carnivore diet, and IV phosphatidylcholine seem like the best options. There's more. Thanks again for your caring note.

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Wow! This is fascinating. I worked as an ophthalmic tech for many years and was often charged with scribing in the exam room with the oculoplastics and reconstructive surgeon for whom I worked. I can still quote “chapter and verse” what he told his patients and it lines up pretty closely with what you are saying about how the health of the eye is treated as a fairly static and often as a “deteriorating over time” kinda thing. “Back then,” Dry Macular Degeneration could not be treated; only the wet form could be lasered to possibly halt progression. Oh and nuclear sclerotic cataracts were viewed as simple aging, nothing more. I’ve never been good about wearing sunglasses and used to worry about ARMD and cataracts. I guess I won’t worry so much now!

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I was just thinking - the root of most eye problems is inflammation. Cataracts go away with home- made liquid ivermectin eye drops. I’m not aware of MG- but I suspect it will also help it. Find recipe for eye drops on the “Dirt Road Discussions” channel on telegram.

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Nice. I'm starting DMSO / MG eyedrops and chlorine dioxide for my macular degeneration and will report in a new post. Also red light exposures and a new thermal retinal treatment. This is expensive and I may not continue it.

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Dr Jonathan Wright MD links development of macular degeneration to low stomach acid.

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Low stomach acid is typical in inflammatory autoimmune diseases. So again- it starts with inflammation .

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I mentioned it to a friend who was starting to develope Mac De. She had recovered from some sort of cancer and dr had put her on medication to reduce stomach acid as a precaution against its return. Dont know how that came out.

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much more in tomorrow's post

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can you please explain the homemade IVM eye drops? I have severe cataracts and its just getting worse. My ophthalmologist told me that I would need surgery within the next year and Id rather not do that.

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This surgery is the most successful one of the 20th century. I have only a few caveats. That said there are ways to help some cataracts.

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Yeah for cataract surgery! The eye doctors I saw told me to wait, but I knew that I was going to end up in a ditch driving home after work on some rainy night. My third try in finding a doctor was the charm. Consider this, Cataracts can kill you, and they definitely kill a lot of the beauty of life. You will be amazed at the vibrant color you have been missing once you get the surgery.

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well do tell those ways to help cataracts.

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These are curable; see tomorrow's post.

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Can you share the recipe for ivermectin eye drops? And have you witnessed cataracts going away as a result? Many thanks!

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see tomorrow's post

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thanks for your work. good interview and links

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My bother died of skin cancer in early 1997. I have not used any sun lotions for nearly 40 years. I get as much sun as I can and don't over do it. They said I would be more susceptible to cancer because it might be hereditary. It's all a crock of crappola, like 95% of the modern stone age medical system.

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you know the song and verse

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UV actually helps us fight cancer, not the other way around!

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I’m sorry I meant MD- macular degeneration

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post tomorrow

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A little footnote about the mother who insisted every sliver of light be blocked from the bedroom: i read a book decades ago about how that must be done to exclude artificial light inside and out. The book was pointing out that women's hormones are exquisitely designed to respond to moonlight and like moths get very confused by artificial 'moons'. Maybe yr friend's mother read it too.

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Topical fenbendazole or ivermectin eradicates squamous, basal and melanoma skin cancers https://fenbendazole.substack.com No more butcher dermatologists for me!

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All recipes on that channel are pinned on the top.

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I don't have a telegram account. Can you summarize?

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Sure. Here it is, per dirt road discussion’s recipe:

1/8 Tsp Kosher salt

2 Tsps warm water

1/2 ml of 1% liquid injectable Ivermectin

It can be stored in dropper bottle found in most health food stores on line. My mother’s cataracts disappeared within a month. She took 2 drops twice a day to each eye. Blessings!

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Yes I preserved this. Or use half 99.995 percent DMSO and half 20 ppm chlorine dioxide solution for eyedrops. This has been used to successfully treat macular degeneration.

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Doc, in your estimation, is ivermectin safe for eyes? Have not seen any info yet on that usage, apart from Poziomka here.

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see post tomorrow

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Could you give the exact proportions of each ( exact recipe)?

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I would use distilled water and even boil it first before using it to make eyedrops.

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Poziomka, did your mom use tablespoons in the recipe, or teaspoons?

Thanks.

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Teaspoons. I think the abbreviation for tablespoon is tbs. But- teaspoon for sure.

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Thank you so much! What confused me was the capital T. In food recipes, people often use it for tablespoons.

Whew. Now I can proceed. :-)

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As I am writing this down, I am wondering... do you mean teaspoons or tablespoons?

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Awesome! Will try.

If this works....! It will change the world! :-)

I have also seen good results claimed on the basis of some electrostim device, but the person who claimed the cure never wrote back.

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Good info. But my belief is that all chronic diseases are multi-factorial, even though most (or perhaps all) have a component of metabolic dysfunction. Sufficient sun exposure is likely to help, but there is usually more at play, or at the very least there is more needed to undo any existing damage. The eyes are the early warning system for your circulatory system. If something is showing up in your eyes, it is likely an indication that things are not great elsewhere.

It would likely be worth your time to look at Jerry Tennant's Healing is Voltage book about eye diseases. He claims to be able to correct macular degeneration through application of micro-voltage, coupled with determining (and hopefully correcting) where there is an impediment to voltage that has contributed to the disease.

He's an opthamalogist who contracted, if I'm recalling correctly, a brain virus. Countless experts couldn't figure it out, so he had to do so himself, despite being severely debilitated. He found that the body needs sufficient voltage for healing, which is equivalent to a more alkaline state than is optimal for general health. That supply of voltage can be transmitted along fascial planes (which connect at accupuncture meridians) to the affect part of the body, as long as there's not an interruption along the way (a surgical scar, a tooth infection, etc - he claims teeth are the circuit breakers of the body's electrical system). Extra negative ions from grounding and from electron donors like Vitamin C and chlorine dioxide, or infrared heat from the sun, can also help to raise the necessary voltage.

I'm way out of my depth here, but I believe that the extra voltage is a requirement for activating stem cells. That it's low body voltage that accompanies getting older that limits the ability of stem cells to do their thing.

Perhaps I just threw you a bunch of weeds, but hopefully there is something in there that will be helpful.

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thanks tjhe complexity of natural medicine seems endless

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That's kinda funny. What I find is a whole lot of people with a lot of different ways of essentially describing the same phenomena. If you can distill it all down, there's a lot of elegance and simplicity. They're saying the same thing in different ways. Same ideas, different perspectives.

Tennant was an allopath and a Young Sheldon type - he graduated from college before his age cohort made it through high school. He was a top notch ophthalmologist, holding several Lasik patents. If you read any of his books, he'll come across as quirky, but a lot of that is all the gyrations that you need to go through not to be accused of heresy by the AMA and FDA. He also seriously needs a decent editor. But that's the trouble with really smart people, they can't see the value in a skill that seems much simpler than it really is.

I find that the people who have figured out a part of the health puzzle are those who've had their own long and arduous health journey. Tennant is definitely in that category. And I was able to find one of his books in the local library system, so it was possible to wade in without investing anything.

Good luck to you with whatever path you choose to take with your AMD. I was diagnosed with dry AMD nearly 15 years ago and it hasn't progressed. So I must be finding some truth in my personal health journey through the weeds. But I also appreciate that wet AMD is a much different problem.

A Midwestern Doctor stated recently that he felt that Traditional Chinese Medicine is probably the best way of understanding health and disease. It seems to me that Tennant had also accepted that ancient wisdom, and that it was the part of solving his personal health challenge.

BTW, I'm reading Casey Means' Good Energy. The best chapter was where she called out allopathic medicine, stating correctly that they excel at acute issues, but completely suck at chronic disease. That's what siloing gets you. Cross pollination is where the answers will be found. It allows people to examine problems from different perspectives.

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thanks for the complete comment

see post tomorrow for more

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My old dermo loved to tell his patients the only good mole is a gone mole. He misdiagnosed my facial psoriasis as adult female acne, and missed a case of melanoma on a friend until it metastasized and she died. This post Dr. Yoho, explains why he was so wealthy, yet such a bad clinician. He liked repeating appointments until you were dead. He put me on low-dose antibiotics that nearly wrecked my immunity. Thank goodness for my misdiagnosis because who knows how he could have damaged me with other medicines.

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consider my comment said ha

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