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Diane Weber's avatar

Actually, Lyme's disease can be very serious and difficult to cure. If you have it and Doxycycline works, you're lucky. The blood test for it is slow and indeterminate in many cases. I have a friend whose pre-diagnosed case was so serious that her doctors thought she had MS. The Doxy cured her. I have another friend whose Lyme's was cured by Chlorine Dioxide. I live in the countryside and I am more frightened by Lyme's than anything else.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I will let you know how it goes.

Carole Hallman's avatar

We don't know what the initials stands for so not helpful

Diane Weber's avatar

You mean MS? Multiple sclerosis, it puts people in a wheelchair.

Scrub-Texas's avatar

First and foremost DY, you look great and your voice and neuro seem sharper. Love you so much and so glad to see you looking so well. I loved BenFen - what a kind, gentle and smartie pants man! I have been following him too and great to put a face to the kind remarks from his substack. Just how magnanimous of Unbecoming (what a great prolific thought provoker) to gift your followers his DSMO book AND now Curious - he is also a very kind, caring and giving man of his knowledge and time. How blessed you are too, DY! This is the kindnesses the three of you will be so aptly rewarded for it is not about the money but all of us taking care of each other with the many skills and tasks, He has bestowed upon us. Every one of us has skills we could be paid for but share as it always comes back to us tenfold AND with so much knowledge from your substack and guests, we can share that as well. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you do. As it was you that gave me the courage to use the modalities to get my man of 48 years back to better than he was before. You always make my day with your stacks! Don’t forget to thank Judy for sharing you with us, it really means a lot! Lots of love sent to her, too!

Susie AH's avatar

I made the mistake of poisoning myself with chlorine dioxide and was sick with vomiting and diahorrea fir 2 days but when I recovered I felt wonderful. Now I use the Andreas Klacker method and never have any problems with sickness. It is the chlorite in the solution that does the harm, the Klacker method is ph neutral so doesn’t harm your gut.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

That was just a Herxheimer reaction, and all you had to do was halve the dose.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Susie AH—I did the same thing! I was using CD from AlphaOmega Labs. The font they used for instructions was teeny. (Though Intake full responsibility!)

It said, “Take 1-5 drops. If you are prone to nausea, take fewer.” I thought it said 15 drops rather than 1-5.

I am very much prone to nausea so I took 10 drops, of the recommended 1-5. OH. MY. WORD, was I wreck! I was bedridden— or rather, bathroom floor ridden, for 2 full days. 😆🤢 Everything in my stomach, intestines and bowels came out— probably twice. 😆😆 I will never make THAT mistake again.

Curious Outlier's avatar

You didn't use the starting procedure did you?

Susie AH's avatar

I’m curious as to why you don’t use the much safer Klacker method so the starter protocol isn’t as relevant

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

The Kalker method is not safer. It's not as strong, and you don't get into Herxheimer's so soon, and it doesn't work for certain more severe problems such as malaria and autism.

Susie AH's avatar

Thanks for making that point, it’s useful to know. I tend to use CDS more externally anyway, on skin lesions like cold sores, in the ear (with caution), as a mouthwash. I put it in my fridge as it helps to stop mould and I wash some of my fruit in it. I will give the stronger version a go again but will follow the starting procedure (I was too impatient last time) as suggested by Curious Outlier.

Curious Outlier's avatar

I used both for different things. MMS1 gets deeper in the body than CDS. But CDS is a bit gentler. They both have their place.

Susie AH's avatar

Do you know the chemistry behind that statement? I would be interested to understand the science as to why this is true. As far as I can see the main difference is MMS1 is strongly alkaline and CDS is near neutral ph

Michelle M Barre's avatar

I jumped on the Chlorine Dioxide to clean up my water and my body. I still use the Ivermectin and Fenbenzadole and etc.. for a parasite cleans but the Chlorine Dioxide also purges metals as Boron does-

Rosie Cotton's avatar

My two favorite Substackers got together for this article!! Yay!! This synopsis of the therapies mentioned is absolutely a gem.

I’ll be sending this article as a “starter pack” to “anyone who will listen” for taking care of the body God gave us.

Thank you both for this.🙏🏼💕👍🏼

RT's avatar

Where can you purchase BPC--157?

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

Another useful drop. Everything useful can also be un-useful. I have been a bit run down exactly as described. I am going to back off my chlorine dioxide. I've been taking it almost daily for some time. I will follow the given protocol of doing it only twice a week.

Don's avatar

Thanks for this wonderful interview with Curious, Dr. Yoho!

Right at the end there is a point where you and he talk over each other. You are clear but his words are not. Can you possibly reproduce his sentence here? Thanks.

Matthew Fourro's avatar

Gemini was the only AI platform that gave me this information already, apparently using first principles analysis - it did not dismiss ClO2(unlike all the other ones), pointing out it's many interesting electrochemical effects on germs and our own cells. And it suggested the recovery regimen in here too.

Truth Counts's avatar

You posted 300 PPM... did you mean 3000 PPM, which I believe is the standard for CDS?

Is it advisable to alternate CDS with methylene blue, taking one daily, and alternating? Or is more of a break needed?

I have been using either CDS or MB every day and have had some fatigue and even a little depression, the latter which may not be from either... I also take colloidal silver... apart from the others by at least 8 hours... should that also be only taken sporadically? I have a UTI, so I am hoping it helps... it did once before...

Thanks, VERY interesting info, news to me... I used to take CDS daily for weeks at a time... I only stopped when I began taking MB and I know they do not mix.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I am not in love with CDS, so I did not memorize the parts per million. Refer to theuniversalantidote.com for more information about the parts per million. I just got done with seven weeks of daily, seven hours a day, Chlorine Dioxide at 22 drops per liter, and I am far more weaker at the end of it. This may be evidence that the curious outliers hypothesis about using it intermittently is a better idea. I think it can be used with methylene blue, no worries.

Curious Outlier's avatar

CD and MB can be used in parallel. I don't mean mix them. I just mean that they will not counter each other.

Truth Counts's avatar

thanks! I think I'll take them separately, but follow your suggestions.

This guy is a bit squirrely, but might be correct?

https://www.brighteon.com/ae0ad342-79db-44db-aee4-ccc0cc78f58a

Diane Weber's avatar

If it's minerals you're after, take Shilajit, a well-known adaptogen. Put a pin-head amount in hot green tea and drink most days. I have Azomite here for my garden, and frankly I'd prefer eating the plants that take it in than eat the Azomite.

Curious Outlier's avatar

I've been putting Azomite in my food and or drink for nearly 20 years.

Pauline's avatar

Thank you for time gentleman!!!! ❤️❤️❤️

Diane Weber's avatar

Wow. Right out of the agricultural bag? One of the ingredients listed in this article is aluminum, but I assume that is an aluminum-silicate.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Yep. Right out of the bag. (Very fine crushed powder). The aluminosilicates in azomite go through the body relatively unabsorbed.

Diane Weber's avatar

That sounds like Zeolite. It supposedly binds with aluminum in your body and helps remove it but I don't know how true that is.

David Nockels's avatar

Very useful chat. Thanks. With reference to RIC (Remote Ischaemic Conditioning) this sounds remarkably similar to A form of BFR Blood Flow Restriction Training, known as KAATSU . A Japanese scientist Dr Sato has been working on developing it for most of his working life. Blood pressure cuffs on the upper arms or legs are used to restrict blood flow (NOT occlude it). The application of pressure in the cuff is cycled ON and OFF. In the more refined version of the system, the cycle of pressure is created using a small air compressor. Typical cycles are 30 seconds ON and 5 secs OFF. Within the Japanese Medical System KAATSU is well established and there is a considerable body of science. Many of the benefits talked of by “Curious” for RIC are also recorded with KAATSU. I would imagine there is much to be learnt by looking at both modalities. The KAATSU devices are very neat and allow the BFR to be easily added to any activity or indeed none. The devices are not cheap. I have had an earlier one for many years and add it routinely to walks. I look after it carefully as I would hate to lose it. You touched briefly on saunas too. I think many of the benefits are similar, as regards endothelial health, BDNF and so on. Love to get those synergies working…

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Upcoming article about this in a few weeks

David Pare's avatar

It would be super cool to have a before-and-after set of microbiome profiles following use of Chlorine Dioxide. I've been told that the mouth has a microbiome too. Might the use of Chlorine Dioxide have effects on this microbiome too? Could it lead to more cavities, just as an example? Same question for the nose. It feels as though it might be like antibiotics, in some circumstances. Super helpful - but not without impacts.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

The dogma is that it does not adversely affect the microbiome, but who knows?

Emily White's avatar

I use the Chlorine Dioxide toothpaste and mouthwash. If I don’t rinse it out, would that be enough consumption to start with?

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

This stuff is surprisingly active at low concentrations. We don't know what the minimal effective dose is. I'm sure it helps some.

JP's avatar

I used the “ activated Drops, which is simple 2,ingredients together: Sodium Chlorite 28% and Hydrochloric Acid 4% as an http://Activator.My

( water soluble Gas) CLO2, with pH 7.0, better, but my Stomach still does not like it.I bought a Booklet: One Minute Cure using Food grade Hydrogen Peroxide. My Stomach is OK !

Lina's avatar

I found out in the curious outlier files that maintained dose for chlorine dioxide is 6 activated drops every day. Now he seems to contradict that. I did that daily for few months and stopped. Should I continue.

Curious Outlier's avatar

When I wrote the book, I was completely going off of the work of Jim Humble. I have modified my thinking as I have learned and watched others learn.

Susie's avatar

Curious - Thank you for sharing your education with us. We appreciate your wise words.

Lina's avatar

Thank you.

Rick (from Texas)'s avatar

That’s funny, I’ve used Azomite in my gardens for years, but never heard of it being used by humans. 🤔