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Helena Foutz's avatar

We only cook with refined coconut oil and Kerrygold butter. Everything tastes good, and you get great skin!

Mari Gold's avatar

Awesome comprehensive source of one of the most important bits of information concerning seed oils and fats! Loved this and shared! Thank you doc!!!

Julia's avatar

Thank you for the great summary. I provide primary medical care for a highly educated university population. Almost all patients are shocked when I advise that saturated fat and cholesterol consumption are not causal agents for heart disease. They believe the opposite. I cite the big studies but most are still skeptical. We have a long way to go.

jerome kahn's avatar

Virgin Olive oil, toxic impurities; and a window on idiopathic conditions

You who have read Butchered by Healthcare by Dr. Robert Yoho, Bad Pharma by Prof Ben Goldacre, The Truth about Drug Companies by Prof. Marcia Angell, and Metabolical by Prof Robert Lustig, you will realize that the system which has given us cigarettes, statins, sodas, and paracetamol (Tylenol) hasn’t changed. To that list belongs virgin olive oil. Why are we buying impure, crude olive oil at a premium price? Marketing shapes behavior.

Why are people smoking cigarettes and taking Tylenol? They are along with our western high sugar diet bio-stressors which over the years give us idiopathic (cause unknown) conditions such as heart attack, dementia, osteoarthritis of the knee and hip. It isn’t the simple answer of sloth, obesity, etc., but the lifelong exposure to bio-stressors. They overwhelm the systems that keep us healthy. For this risk reduction of conditions, I limit the obvious bio-stressors. I don’t ingest weird foreign chemicals. Now for the case against oleocanthal, oleuropein, and other impurities in virgin olive oil.

Oleocanthal Oleuropein

The chemical in raw olives keep animals from eating olives. The fruits lay on the ground rotting. Most weeds don’t grow under olive trees. Olives must be cured, viz., treated with lye to remove chemicals including oleocanthal and oleuropein. Some olive cultivars when ripe are edible without curing. For most the curing requires fermentation involving bacteria and yeast which breaks down the toxic phenolic compounds. However, for virgin olive oil, the olives are not cured--detoxified. The olives are ground then pressure removes the oils, compounds, and water.

The waste which is called pomace. Since all the compounds haven’t been removed, It is toxic and can’t be fed to animals or composted. The same with the seeds if ground. Disposal of the waste is an environmental problem: Handling of olive waste is an environmental challenge because the wastewater, which amounts to millions of tons (billions of liters) annually in the European Union, is not biodegradable, is toxic to plants, and cannot be processed through conventional water treatment systems. (Wikipedia Olive oil, April 2023.)

Nine reasons I don’t use virgin olive oil. One is price. Second is the rancidification of unsaturated fatty acid, the aldehydes formed when in cell membranes are harmful. Third is lack of purity; all the chemicals that make a tree-ripe olive inedible. Ripe olives lay on the ground under the tree. Animals, including insects, don’t eat those ripe olives and most weeds won’t grow. Fourth, the olive must be cured (remove the poisons) before they can be palatable; but the olive isn’t cured when extracted by cold press method. Fifth, with cold pressing those chemicals in the olive are extracted into the olive oil with some remaining in the pulp (pomace). Sixth is the taste as warning of harm. I have receptors on my tongue which register in my brain that the virgin oil has pernicious chemicals; it tastes very rancid, Seventh, polyphenols are an anti-inflammatory. We need our immune system to be fully operational. Eight, toxic chemicals even in small amounts cause subclinical harm; they increase the risk of idiopathic conditions. Ninth, the issue of safe disposal. I certainly don’t consume chemicals that make the pomace too toxic to be fed animals.

For these reasons I don’t buy virgin olive oil, I would buy pure oil, though now it is not carried by most grocery stores. As stated in the first paragraph, the system which gave us cigarettes still exists; it is profits before our health. I limit bio-stressors by using pure oils high in saturated fats (coconut oil and butter), they don’t become rancid in my cell walls. It is two ways (seed oils and virgin olive oil) I limit bio-stressor; I lower the risks for conditions.

Mary L.'s avatar

Did anyone see the interview that Tucker did with Bryan Johnson the wealthy guy hacking his body at 2 million dollars a year to not die? Interesting conversation and apparently everything he does is free and available online. Wonder if he’s controlled opposition.

Arturo A.'s avatar

Second question on this, I'm seeing a lot of commentary here and elsewhere on badness of omega 6s in nuts and peanuts. Walnuts have so many beneficial minerals in them, and I get good fresh ground peanut butter from the Amish store, for the flavor, protein, and a "sugar stop" to slow sugar absorption for Type 2.

There has to be a way to balance these out, the Omega 6 intake with the Omega 3s. I use pumpkin seeds and ground flaxseed meal daily for Omega 3s, plus fatty fish 2-3 times per week (all I can choke it down).

Arturo A.'s avatar

First of two posts here.

Perhaps not strictly on the topic of seed oils per se, but I normally get milk products from our local Amish dairy at the on premises farm store. Grass fed but sometimes with non GMO feed. If it's good enough for the Amish, it's a good sign. Milk, yogurt, ice cream, butter.

One day the store was closed and I got a gallon of conventional grocery store while milk. After a few days of this, I started having agita, sulfur burps, even nausea. Nothing else in my diet had changed otherwise. By process of elimination it had to be the change in milk sourcing.

Likely culprit was the fortification with vitamin D3. The producer is obviously dumping and mixing in chemical powder form "D3.". I had weaned myself from this kind milk and foods generally fortified or enriched with these chemical "vitamins" and "minerals."

Like the good doctor is educating us on the ubiquitousness of these horrible seed and vegetable oils, so it is with these chemicals. No wonder it's so HARD to avoid this stuff.

Spartan Girl's avatar

What about Costco Organic Olive oil? Is it really organic and do they put other oils in it?

Crixcyon's avatar

In order to live a long, healthy life, it appears that one must virtually stop eating with nearly every food being poisoned in some manner. You might survive with your own garden, but eventually they will make it illegal to get seeds. Besides, I am not a fruit and veggie person so much. And apartment living provides no home grown garden option.

I look at the list of things that increase the risk of death and most of them are not things I am or do. Being 74 and still relatively healthy, I figure it is hit or miss. Some people can go overboard on living an unhealthy lifestyle and live into their 80's or beyond while the health junky never makes it much past 60.

Health, like most things, is not a one-size-fits-all proposition. I even question the supplements I have been taking as so many of them have extra junk added in. I am weeding these out...not much left. I don't trust the chemicals that even vit-D are made from. There is NO substitute for the sun and prove to me that vit-D is even close to being the same.

Perhaps the greatest factor is mental. Nobody talks much about that. Focusing on not getting this disease or that tends to increase your risk, while focusing more on a healthy body might help that come into being.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I'm still in the going overboard phase

Ryan Selda's avatar

I just remembered that there was this X.com shrared video clip (which I forgot to save/bookmark) recently, whereas two lab scientists where testing two lab rats and the long-term effects of the Western diet that it had on one of them in terms of cognitive abilities. They made a container with water on it with a single, circular landing pad on one side and they placed one rat w/o the Western diet versus the rat who ate it. They were testing to see if they can time the rats on how well they can easily find the landing pad on the bucket container. Rat 1 (w/o the Western diet) find it in just over, I think, 3-4 seconds, while Rat 2 (w/ Western diet) took almost approximately 43 seconds. I goes to show how long term effects of eating this way can have an adversely effect on you in the long run.

Ryan Selda's avatar

This is always the PINNED post on Dr. Mercola's Substack page, and I truly understand why.

https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/linoleic-acid

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I downloaded it thanks

Bruce H's avatar

I have many friends and relatives who are completely unaware of the dangers of seed oils, they believe their doctors and the mainstream nutritionists and avoid saturated fat. They love restaurant fried chicken, french fries etc. All of them suffer from multiple chronic conditions. When I tell them the dangers of seed oils, they just stare at me. Like most Americans, they judge food by how it tastes, no regard to where it came from or how it was prepared. Most of the world is brainwashed into thinking cholesterol is bad and that vaccines work. It’s a tragedy. Thank you for the long and informative post, a lot more info than I’ve seen previously.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

seed oils are the biggest psy op in history

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Pls don’t forget that the very same autoimmune illnesses such as RA, diabetes, etc also

stem from CHILDHOOD VACCINES. Most if not all of them are written on the vaccine inserts in each box.

If we stop the vaccines and restart butter and even lard, we should all be 95% FINE in no time.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

ghee is better than lard b c the pigs only have one stomach

Dr Linda's avatar

Well done!

PJ's avatar

Hmm….Lot of opinions in the comments. So…This isn’t an opinion, it’s just me being a guinea pig and trying to figure out what happened.

A few years ago I had a bad accident that left me in a wheelchair for 3 months after knee surgery on one leg and a boot on the other. I eventually recovered, did some research, and started on specific supplements that helped recovery. Everything has been great for five years. Then all of a sudden, out of the blue my knees were hurting and felt like they were giving out on me. Two weeks of examining everything in my very limited life and asking “what changed?”

(You’ll like this one Yoho). I had recently bought and used an off brand oil, labeled organic for frying. A brand I had never used from a store I rarely shop at. So I quit using the oil and low and behold…my knees recovered in a few days.

Believe me, I played detective for two weeks asking what changed and that fricking oil is the only thing.

So I told this story to friend today and came home to find your timely post.

How cool 😎 and thank you

EK MtnTime's avatar

Such a great post! I was aware of a lot of it but definitely not as in depth as this goes. As a person who has been health conscious most of my adult life and an avid exercise nut, it’s easy for me to avoid fast food, smoking, drinking, and other unhealthy habits. Although I do have a sweet tooth that I must keep in check. Yet, it was a shock to read about how I’m running afoul with restaurants…although these days eating out is basically a luxury even when it’s Tex-Mex.

Not having any experience with baby formula I was sickened by the ingredients! How anyone, let alone the manufacturer, think the ingredients are beneficial?? Liquid Doritos is so accurate. Of course, after the Plandemic, I believe this is by design.

The next most-worrying piece of information were these words “In other words, soybean oil destroys our ability to love on the neurochemical level.” With all those who rage out of control these days and the apathy I see in 30 something’s and under, I now understand why. How terribly sad.

So much wrong in this world and much of it starts with the food being consumed. And here again I’ll say, it’s all by design.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

You know the lyrics and the melody both