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Yes the system is designed to fail. To not only hide pharmaceutical product injuries but it’s also designed to conceal the cause of disease. The pharmaceutical companies are predators and the human body has no value unless diseased.

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I’ve actually designed a health system that would almost eliminate pharmaceutical injuries and make all other causes of disease plummet. It would also provide incredibly valuable data that could be used to pinpoint risks to health from big industry and the environment in certain regions. Then you could charge big industry for the contribution to our health problems. Surely big industry shouldn’t be allowed to profit from their pollution unless they pay the health costs they contribute to.

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Thank you, Dr. Robert. ...I wish it were that I could promise to share your book with five people right now, but I am otherwise here, in the thick of it, educating the medical community and consumers about the endocannabinoid system and the distraction of isolated, neutralized cannabinoids such as CBD and THC.

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Fascinating chat. I read every science paper I could get hold of regarding asymptomatic spread of influenza like illnesses (ILI) and from 2002 it was called 'asymptomatic spread' and it was funded by DARPA, Gates and the CCP. Before 2002 (i.e. pre SARS Cov I) it was called 'presymptomatic spread' and it was never found to be a driver of ILIs.

I then realised that if you read the whole paper, not just lazily whizzed to the results/conclusions the main body of the paper indicated that asymptomatic spread was not a driver, but because of the requirements of the funders the wrong things were highlighted in the results section.

It's clear that science funded in this manner led to dodgy science. This gives the evil global cabal headed by Gates, WEF and assisted by Elon Musk the ability to utilise the whole healthcare industry to deliberately poison the useless eaters. As a useless eater I take umbrage.

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dodgy is too kind

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There were a few who had the possibility of causing asymptomatic spread in the challenge study https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-022-01780-9. But nearly half never because ill at all. The follow-on paper (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(23)00101-5/fulltext) found that those with the most symptoms were shedding less than one person with near no symptoms!

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I don't trust science funded by the people who brought us house arrest-

This study was partly funded by the PROTECT COVID-19 National Core Study on Transmission and the Environment. We also gratefully acknowledge support from the UK Vaccine Taskforce of the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy of Her Majesty's Government (BEIS). AS is supported by a National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) academic clinical lectureship. CC and AS are supported by the NIHR Imperial Biomedical Research Centre award to Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust and Imperial College London. NMF acknowledges funding from the NIHR Health Protection Research Unit in Modelling and Health Economics, the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis, and the Jameel Institute. We thank the study participants for their involvement. We would like to acknowledge Anika Wisniewska, Eve Fletcher, Baber Saleem, and Tylon Smith (University of Leicester) for preparing the sampling masks. The views expressed are those of the authors and not necessarily those of the National Health Service, the NIHR, and BEIS.

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I don't rate the Lancet anymore, lied once that's it, Prof Fenton picked them up on more Climate Fear lies as well this week, goddamn globalist shills - https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/global-warming-will-save-many-lives .

Who paid the scientists? I read every paper I could find on asymptomatic spread, prior to 2002 (Sars Cov I) it was called presymptomatic and it had never been found to be a driver of respiratory diseases. Post 2002 all the science in this area was being funded by Gates, DARPA, Chinese and Fauci, the science suddenly stated it was a driver in respiratory diseases. Then I read the whole paper, quite often the guts of the paper was at variance with the RESULTS section we all lazily scroll to. That was a productive day, I probably retained a list as I ran it past a qualified friend who agreed, the Lancet has jumped the shark and covid was a well planned lie. Let me know if you want a list. You have to dig deep with these lying murderous fuckers.

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Great interview. What a thoughtful, compassionate and competent man this Dr. Fraiman. Very few like him today.

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This can all be explained by things like "Gnosticism" or the dark triad. See history and operation Judaism - read the rabbi's, learn about freemasonary or Gnosticism, see Voegelins "Science, Politics and Gnosticism" - 100 pages / 15 bucks.

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I read the "Butchered" book...need to reread it. I firmly believe the entire medical mafia is a fraud. Sure, there may be a few decent parts to it, but who has time to sort through all the garbage? Who do we trust? I trust no medical expert at this point. They are mostly frauds.

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I knew that this interview was not going to bring truth and understanding for me when I saw from his opening comment that he assumes that “COVID-19” is a thing. He appears to be a charitable and honest gentleman.

Every action taken by medical and science actors in response to “the pandemic” from late 2019 onward is based upon lie upon lie, deception upon deception. There is no part of that operation that should be intellectually accepted by anyone.

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He's sincere

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Agreed! 👍🏼

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Wonderful! Thank you for this article. It looks like we need more Dr Katz's in the world!

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WRT Denis Rancourt, he was one of the very few outspoken academic folks from the very beginning and I've been following him closely. His work is outstanding and it's thorough. He has an 800 page report behind that summary. I've heard him speak a few times to the vaccine choice groups.

He would make for an interesting podcast. :)

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Get me links and a contact and I'll consider it.

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This is a summary of his testimony to the National Citizens Inquiry on COVID-19

https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=130&name=2023_06_22_there_was_no_pandemic_essay

His contact info is here: https://denisrancourt.ca/page.php?id=4&name=contact

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I have a lot on my plate but will put him in line ha

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Brilliant interview.

First, it's amazing that you already knew Dr Fraimen pre-pandemic. Lends credence to the idea that good people find and know other good people when they meet them.

I first heard him on Trishwood podcasts shortly after his unprecedented apology given during the first DeSantis round table a couple years back. His honesty shone past everyone else like a beacon. I remember immediately posting it on my FB page as a model for how doctors should act.

Your discussion about the institutionalized corruption of the process is key and I'm glad you asked him the "why" of it as you noted you disagree on that part of the answer. His own response regarding the lack of wanting to find anything bad resonated. This is something that has been there a long time -- if not forever -- in the system, because the argument we've heard for decades on the childhood vaccine front is: We can't run a vax vs unvaxxed clinical trial once we have any (even fraudulent) result that shows benefit, because then it's unethical to withhold a treatment that does good. It is magical thinking.

Your response was the best quote from the interview: "I'm speechless".

The question is why is that magical thinking so pervasive, and it is that way by intent or not? At this point in my mind, there is absolutely no question the answer is yes. Dr Fraimen is generous, and perhaps that is merited for the vast majority of the population that goes with the flow (I call them the mediocrity). When I worked on clinical trials in the 90's it was clear to me even back then, that there was a clear profit driven motive to find benefit and not look for harm.

I think you framed his perspective well though. He still has important work to do, and if he couldn't see any good in the system, how could he continue to work within it. Valid point. I forgive his naivety because I had it once too.

After they released HPV vaccine and pushed it on all boys and girls, I though for sure, they had overstepped and the harms would come to light and people would change the system. Dr Fraimen is right, that right now, people are listening. However, I'm not yet convinced that they can comprehend the extremely complex nature of clinical trials, and drug regulation as we attempt to officially protect the public by discerning harm from good. I fear the simple talking point -- We showed it benefited people after only 3 months, how could we continue to run a trial that withheld a clearly beneficial product from a portion of the public -- is a lot easier for the "busy" average person to digest.

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Joe is a very good dude and a quality person but he is a sort of innocent.

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Fabulous interview. My favorite line: Joe "(the FDA) has magical thinking"😅

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He's too generous with this.

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If only more doctors where like Dr. Fraimen…

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Yes super sincere.

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The agriculture industry is a parallel and coequal system to healthcare. Monsanto for example, makes chemicals to kill weeds pesticides, and may other things. When the weeds become tolerant to the chemicals they become super weeds. So they will have a new chemical for that at sometime in the future. They must know these things in advance but do it anyway. Their partners are FDA, CDC, EPA, APHIS and many other familiar federal agencies.

The chemicals are harmful to the workers that mix and apply them to the fields. They are sprayed tractor and crop dusters aircraft with the mist traveling by wind to isolated homes, farming communities and cities. Just check out the "Mississippi Delta" towns. You can view them by aerial or satellite photos. These town/cities are surrounded by agriculture. I don't know much about the health of people that live there but I suspect there are common issues.

Take a drive on HWY 61 between Memphis and Vicksburg, MS. Examples are Cleveland, Leland, and the completely destroyed town of Rolling Fork. Rolling Fork was destroyed by a wedge tornado this spring. They still need a lot of help. It is mostly a very poor farming community with may living in trailers.

I know a missionary MD that lives in the "Delta" with his family. He is a dedicated man that serves.

It's not often one finds medical doctors dedicated to his practice with little and limited resources for his family and patients. They are an impressive family.

The is still hope for humanity despite the evil that surrounds us. DO NOT CONSENT!

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I don’t think that guy gets it .

At all

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Great interview! It’s reassuring to hear medical professionals see what’s pretty obvious to the average person, because most people in medicine seem genuinely oblivious, despite their intelligence (and probably due to their high levels of education).

It’s true that more people are talking about reforming the system but unfortunately, not much seems to be happening. I know that change takes time but it really feels like the pharmaceutical industrial complex is so powerful that they control most corporate media and politicians so change feels like it may not be on the horizon. There has been ample evidence of “vaccine” failure and harm, and it’s been there from the beginning, but they keep rolling out more and putting them on the childhood schedule, despite the evidence of failure and harm.

At least people are speaking out so we can educate ourselves and protect ourselves and our children.

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