Here we go again. Check back in 2057 to see if all the investigations and testing and tracking revealed the truth. How many died? How many were poisoned? How many will be poisoned? How many will die years from now from these toxins? And on, and on, and on.
ty. controlled opposition to what exactly? hysteria? industry related details & information? apples, oranges & nuts? we need all real info we can get.
there are a lot of us who have been "awake" for most of our lives, looking at the issues, conspiracies & details from all sides. personally, i have waited, warned, spoken to friends & family, shared articles & official documents since 1998. while i am glad so many are waking up, it seems as tho they are waking from a nightmare instead of into one. i personally point to listen to the people of east palestine. they know the administration they are dealing with, the governor who was previously the AG & the response they are getting. unfortunately, the Governor is acting exactly as i expected in public press releases & interviews. He must do better. the AG is the Ohio peoples attorney , the Governor the mouthpiece. the Fed is not responsible to or for the people in those directly affected states.
IF he would do his job of informing people with precise, exact information of toxins & poisons, cleanup info, send in a clinic to test, treat residents, document instead of send in a behavioral unit (mental health) to provide information....this confusion would not reign.
this directly affects Ohio & PA. these are industrial manufacturing areas & they are used to industrial accidents, working with & around chemicals, reading MSDS info, safety...& they arent even being given that much info...no one is telling them anything of any use on a personal, daily level for decision making, living, planning even of their next day, day to day.
THAT info is for the Governor to find out & personally report & direct to His people & thereby all the rest of us concerned. He is to account to his people exactly what they need to know for their peace of mind, safety & protection.
carry on! i very much appreciate your work.
everything is controlled opposition...question is...to what? peace, out!
Speaking of lies, ifyou think the the US shot down 3 UFO’s over Canada consider this: they told you Trump was a Russian Agent. They told you Kavanaugh was a rapist. They told you Hunters laptop was fake. They told you Ivermectin can only be used on horses. They told you masks work. They told you 5 Capitol police officers were killed on J6. They told you Jussie Smollet was beaten up by MAGA crazed racists. And thats just a few. All proven lies.
Good lord, they’re so lazy this time they didn’t even bother to fake any pics.
Thank you for your input in this matter! The articles from you, Doomberg, and El Gato Malo give a reasoned perspective on this incident. I think people have been lied to so much in the last 3 years that it is making it difficult to parse anything that is going on and who to trust. And I live in Ohio so have had an interest in this situation.
Forgive me for reiterating the hypothesis, posited by Yoishi Shimimatsu, that phosphene, mustard gas was in the black plume of smoke. Why mustard gas? Could this toxic cargo, emanating from an old plant in Madision, Illinois, have been bound for the Ukraine war theater?
Sorry, but I am haunted by the thought of mustard gas and its dire implications for CANCER.
Thanks to the author for this description of the industrial transport logics behind explosion & burning processes used. However he's completely omitted the issue of Complex Synthetic Chemicals CSC & now standard accident response of burning creation of dioxins & furans which can kill & injure in concentrations of one-part per trillion. This is the industrial disaster in East Palestine & health, wellbeing, livelihood & permanent environmental contamination risks for CSC disaster everywhere. Back in he 1800s such highly refined hydro-carbon derivatives were not even 1/1000th part of America' economy & lifestyle compared to today. This 20th century plastic & pharmaceutical economy, which enables centralized ownership & production transport dependent profitability. Part & parcel of parasitic central economic control, is associated Carcinogenic, Mutagenic & Teratogenic CMT extreme health risks. Frequent permanent environmental disasters have 10,000 times the heightened harm death & frequency compared to the 1800s. Hormone mimicry of such as Vinyl Chlorides in this case burning byproduct dioxins & furans lead to sterility & huge hormonal changes in addition to the above CMT. These false science processes are in complete violation of any industrial science which values the populations, which it serves. Natural Holistic Science is the legitimate foundation for sustainable industrial production & transport as part. All People should know their sacred importance to the whole cycle of production & collective intelligence as did all humanity's 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') ancestors. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/home/9-undoing-false-sciencehttps://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/6-holistic-science
What access did Kenneth J Hamin have to documented circumstances of the train wreck? What I saw reported was that one of the 5 cars carrying chemical contents had a leak. The derailment occurred on February 3. I am not sure what date the decision was made, but it was decided to punch openings in the remaining 4 cars and ignite them. The governor signed off on this decision. Are you aware that the contents were of the major ingredient of agent orange? Robert, are you sure you want to continue to defend what happened based on a Facebook post?
There are chemists posting online, that say this stuff should not have been burned. After reading the MSDS where it specifically, do not burn and the reason, your expert says "burn"?
Other chemists say the burn was anything but a controlled burn and the dead giveaway was the black soot in the air. I agree. A hot fire produces way less smoke and definitely not black smoke.
The argument that this happens all of the time is not true. There are accidents, this is a disaster.
Also nobody is denying trains have accidents. This is a red herring part of the argument. There are thousands of car accidents every day. Industry has gone out of its way to decrease death. Is the train industry so obtuse that they cant admit that accidents are a problem and fix them? I find that hard to swallow. This "accident quite cost billions of dollars. A few train workers make billions of dollars. The industry is stupid if they think we won't notice.
And articles are stating that the actual product they are hiding is Phosgene mustard gas. It was to be used to implicate Russia blaming Russia for a chemical attack. That one is a little out there but just as plausible as any other stories I hear.
The way everything is going down, nothing can be counted out.
Most importantly, one must consider the number of accidents should be reduced by now to near zero. The technology is there.
Everything is headed to WW3. Everything is a psy op.
And just think of all of the idiocratic health care these people will get.
Well, I agree that train derailments happen and it's nothing new. My son was fascinated with them and a I had gotten him a book with photos (back in the 90's). However, those were train derailments without the dangerous chemicals. But I wonder why they decided to set the chemicals on fire. Could they have drained the chemicals into other (perhaps cooled) containers. You would think we would have better ideas at how to remedy these situations by now. But it looks like we are not getting any smarter over the years, and probably the other way around (in general)
Shift gears to dioxin. Dioxin measurement, tracking, characterization. That's where the story is at now. You can always go back to topics you have been circling when the time is right.
This is the problem. We are entering into a period of loss of confidence in governments, and rightly so. It has been a long time coming. But the danger is the pendulum will swing the other way, and instead of giving the government the benefit of the doubt, we doubt the government.
Every tragedy can't be an accident, and it can't be a conspiracy, either. This is why the nefarious actors use the guise of accidents to engage in their vile work.
Here we go again. Check back in 2057 to see if all the investigations and testing and tracking revealed the truth. How many died? How many were poisoned? How many will be poisoned? How many will die years from now from these toxins? And on, and on, and on.
Thanks for posting Dr. Yoho. Yet another layer of the big lie onion is unpeeled.
Exactly. The story is developing.
ty. controlled opposition to what exactly? hysteria? industry related details & information? apples, oranges & nuts? we need all real info we can get.
there are a lot of us who have been "awake" for most of our lives, looking at the issues, conspiracies & details from all sides. personally, i have waited, warned, spoken to friends & family, shared articles & official documents since 1998. while i am glad so many are waking up, it seems as tho they are waking from a nightmare instead of into one. i personally point to listen to the people of east palestine. they know the administration they are dealing with, the governor who was previously the AG & the response they are getting. unfortunately, the Governor is acting exactly as i expected in public press releases & interviews. He must do better. the AG is the Ohio peoples attorney , the Governor the mouthpiece. the Fed is not responsible to or for the people in those directly affected states.
IF he would do his job of informing people with precise, exact information of toxins & poisons, cleanup info, send in a clinic to test, treat residents, document instead of send in a behavioral unit (mental health) to provide information....this confusion would not reign.
this directly affects Ohio & PA. these are industrial manufacturing areas & they are used to industrial accidents, working with & around chemicals, reading MSDS info, safety...& they arent even being given that much info...no one is telling them anything of any use on a personal, daily level for decision making, living, planning even of their next day, day to day.
THAT info is for the Governor to find out & personally report & direct to His people & thereby all the rest of us concerned. He is to account to his people exactly what they need to know for their peace of mind, safety & protection.
carry on! i very much appreciate your work.
everything is controlled opposition...question is...to what? peace, out!
Speaking of lies, ifyou think the the US shot down 3 UFO’s over Canada consider this: they told you Trump was a Russian Agent. They told you Kavanaugh was a rapist. They told you Hunters laptop was fake. They told you Ivermectin can only be used on horses. They told you masks work. They told you 5 Capitol police officers were killed on J6. They told you Jussie Smollet was beaten up by MAGA crazed racists. And thats just a few. All proven lies.
Good lord, they’re so lazy this time they didn’t even bother to fake any pics.
Thank you for your input in this matter! The articles from you, Doomberg, and El Gato Malo give a reasoned perspective on this incident. I think people have been lied to so much in the last 3 years that it is making it difficult to parse anything that is going on and who to trust. And I live in Ohio so have had an interest in this situation.
Forgive me for reiterating the hypothesis, posited by Yoishi Shimimatsu, that phosphene, mustard gas was in the black plume of smoke. Why mustard gas? Could this toxic cargo, emanating from an old plant in Madision, Illinois, have been bound for the Ukraine war theater?
Sorry, but I am haunted by the thought of mustard gas and its dire implications for CANCER.
https://rense.com/general97/chemical-weaponry-destined-for-ukraine-ignited-in-east-palestine.php Chemical Weaponry Destined For UkraineIgnited In East Palestine Train WreckBy Yoichi ShimatsuExclusive To Rense2-21-23
Thanks to the author for this description of the industrial transport logics behind explosion & burning processes used. However he's completely omitted the issue of Complex Synthetic Chemicals CSC & now standard accident response of burning creation of dioxins & furans which can kill & injure in concentrations of one-part per trillion. This is the industrial disaster in East Palestine & health, wellbeing, livelihood & permanent environmental contamination risks for CSC disaster everywhere. Back in he 1800s such highly refined hydro-carbon derivatives were not even 1/1000th part of America' economy & lifestyle compared to today. This 20th century plastic & pharmaceutical economy, which enables centralized ownership & production transport dependent profitability. Part & parcel of parasitic central economic control, is associated Carcinogenic, Mutagenic & Teratogenic CMT extreme health risks. Frequent permanent environmental disasters have 10,000 times the heightened harm death & frequency compared to the 1800s. Hormone mimicry of such as Vinyl Chlorides in this case burning byproduct dioxins & furans lead to sterility & huge hormonal changes in addition to the above CMT. These false science processes are in complete violation of any industrial science which values the populations, which it serves. Natural Holistic Science is the legitimate foundation for sustainable industrial production & transport as part. All People should know their sacred importance to the whole cycle of production & collective intelligence as did all humanity's 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') ancestors. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/home/9-undoing-false-science https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/6-holistic-science
What access did Kenneth J Hamin have to documented circumstances of the train wreck? What I saw reported was that one of the 5 cars carrying chemical contents had a leak. The derailment occurred on February 3. I am not sure what date the decision was made, but it was decided to punch openings in the remaining 4 cars and ignite them. The governor signed off on this decision. Are you aware that the contents were of the major ingredient of agent orange? Robert, are you sure you want to continue to defend what happened based on a Facebook post?
There are chemists posting online, that say this stuff should not have been burned. After reading the MSDS where it specifically, do not burn and the reason, your expert says "burn"?
Other chemists say the burn was anything but a controlled burn and the dead giveaway was the black soot in the air. I agree. A hot fire produces way less smoke and definitely not black smoke.
The argument that this happens all of the time is not true. There are accidents, this is a disaster.
Also nobody is denying trains have accidents. This is a red herring part of the argument. There are thousands of car accidents every day. Industry has gone out of its way to decrease death. Is the train industry so obtuse that they cant admit that accidents are a problem and fix them? I find that hard to swallow. This "accident quite cost billions of dollars. A few train workers make billions of dollars. The industry is stupid if they think we won't notice.
And articles are stating that the actual product they are hiding is Phosgene mustard gas. It was to be used to implicate Russia blaming Russia for a chemical attack. That one is a little out there but just as plausible as any other stories I hear.
The way everything is going down, nothing can be counted out.
Most importantly, one must consider the number of accidents should be reduced by now to near zero. The technology is there.
Everything is headed to WW3. Everything is a psy op.
And just think of all of the idiocratic health care these people will get.
Well, I agree that train derailments happen and it's nothing new. My son was fascinated with them and a I had gotten him a book with photos (back in the 90's). However, those were train derailments without the dangerous chemicals. But I wonder why they decided to set the chemicals on fire. Could they have drained the chemicals into other (perhaps cooled) containers. You would think we would have better ideas at how to remedy these situations by now. But it looks like we are not getting any smarter over the years, and probably the other way around (in general)
Shift gears to dioxin. Dioxin measurement, tracking, characterization. That's where the story is at now. You can always go back to topics you have been circling when the time is right.
This is the problem. We are entering into a period of loss of confidence in governments, and rightly so. It has been a long time coming. But the danger is the pendulum will swing the other way, and instead of giving the government the benefit of the doubt, we doubt the government.
Every tragedy can't be an accident, and it can't be a conspiracy, either. This is why the nefarious actors use the guise of accidents to engage in their vile work.