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While vegetables are very useful for their ability to detoxify the body we also require animal fat for a healthy metabolism. Animal fat is used by the body to heal. I have many toxicity symptoms from a reaction to PMMA bone cement and anaphylaxis is one of the symptoms. If I eat vegetables regularly the anaphylaxis gets worse and so do all the other immune symptoms. I have to keep my vitamin c levels low in an attempt to suppress my immune system. If I only eat red meat and animal fat all the symptoms disappear and thousands around the world with autoimmune disorders find the same. Unfortunately I can’t keep it up. I would love to eat vegetables but I have to avoid doing anything that speeds up my bodies detoxification system and avoid as much inflammatory causing things as possible. What I’m saying is different strokes for different folks

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People who look at people’s blood by doing blood smears for a job get to see how the blood reacts to various diets. The guy I saw said O blood type will find it incredibly difficult doing a vegetarian diet long term and will crave meat. They need animal fat the most. It’s certainly what fits with my experiences and my observations. Coming close to death really made me realise how the mantra that food is medicine is correct. Choosing what to eat based on your current health status and the health outcome you are aiming for really does work. If you can tolerate animal fat and have autoimmune symptoms then I’d recommend just eating red meat and fat for 3 days and see what happens. It’s usually day 3 when you notice the improvement so many stick to just red meat and fat. The fat is the most important bit. It’s quite amazing once you treat food as medicine. For different issues a diet high in vegetables and fruit that have a detoxifying effect and vitamin c done long term will lower the bodies toxic load and lead to health improvements. Like onions and cabbage. During the plague most families had one member who got the plague but it was found that onion farmers and their families were spared. It’s thought their diet high in onions kept their toxic load low which meant they weren’t susceptible to symptoms from viruses. Interesting stuff. Food really is like medicine

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Thanks. I read sometime ago that a wholistic dentist periodontist in the US cured or put himself in remission with a carnivore diet; Dr. Danenberg.

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What if you can't digest most fruits or veggies? Vegan diets are not Gastro friendly on my end of the medical spectrum. Soy is not allowed. Many people have GI/HYPOTHROID diseases. I HAVE THEM BOTH. I don't want another Diverticulitis attack. Nor another vision disrupting Flagyl event. I'm the main driver, and can't afford not to see well. I think most food in moderation is the way to go unless you have health conditions that cause you to avoid a group of food. Better yet how about the FDA ENFORCE THE LAW ON TOXIC HEAVY METALS IN OUR FOOD? The pathic food in produce can't be too healthy., it's not even good enough to can. Why do I taste the metal in tinned canned fruits and veggies, but not when they are in glass jars?

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Merry Christmas and thank you for what you do.

My wife and I went WFPB for about 2 years.

Blood work perfect. Teeth perfect. Eyes perfect. I am 65. The only difference I noticed was my brute strength is less. Or maybe I thought I was stronger than I really was. Lol

It wont kill anyone to mostly give up meat and cheese. Trust me about feeling better. It is entirely true for me. I did not gain weight.

Next goal is a 3 day fast. Then a 7 day fast by the end of summer.

Love life, love your partner. Be good and it is easy to follow Jesus.

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Great interview! I’ve been very interested in diet and lifestyle for over a decade. There are so many conflicting theories by very intelligent people that I’ve decided that it’s not easy to come to a conclusion with certainty about what the very best diet is. However, there are a few things that almost everyone agrees on. Mainly, cut processed food out! (Processed grains, sugar, seed oils, meat etc)

I’ve decided that I believe that animal food really is valuable in the diet but it should be raised in a way that it optimizes the nutrition and that all organ meats should be included when possible. We try to eat very high in vegetables and other plant foods and I use traditional methods to prepare many foods (fermenting and soaking for instance). We have enjoyed many health benefits from making these and other changes. Thanks for such a great interview!! It was very interesting.

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Thank you!

Hooray! I am a decades-long vegetarian.

Thank you for sharing this information about this brilliant doctor.

Happy holidays!

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Thank you very much and Merry Christmas.

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Merry Christmas to you & Yours!

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The place to start is Prof. T. Colin Campbell's The Future of Nutrition, and of course The China Study

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I'm vegetarian since 1972, (50 + years) while living, working, gardening & orcharding among 45,000 Russian Doukhobor vegetarians as neighbours in the West Kootenays of British Columbia. I helped develop the BC Fed-up Natural Food Co-op network in our region (1972-80). I helped operate the Quebec La-Balance network in Quebec (1981-95). I became Vegan after the birth of our daughter in 1988 (35 years). https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/design/responsable-health I can help individuals, families & communities with Vegan Cultural 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') 'participatory' livelihood collaboration approaches, based in free-choice-celebration of living. I collaborate with 1st Nations & indigenous people for 59 of my 70 years now. I'm active in union health & safety & management Pollution-control for 50 years now. I helped establish the BC & Quebec Uranium Moratoriums as well as the Quebec Cosmetic ban on Pesticides among a range of municipal, provincial & federal health legislation improvements. DO-WE-KNOW-WHO-WE-ARE-? https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/9-do-we-know-who-we-are I am more concerned with indigenous cultural personal & community collaboration for everyone, where we live & work. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/design/1-how-to-grow-your-own-raw-vegan-food-garden

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More info in the next two posts. We don't know for sure what works.

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Agreed Dr. Yoho, When every nutrient & even the mood of producing, preparing, eating & cleaning is in combination & complementation, given many 1000s of contributing factors, we can't make reductionist assumptions about this or than component or nutrient breakdowns. Its more like a song or a dance flowing with rhythm. I studied Epidemiology & Bio-statistics, with Dr. Rosalie Bertell (PhD Biometrics) during the late 1970s, while working on the British Columbia Uranium Moratorium. Dr. Bertell considers, given the complexity of factors, there must be some network of intimacy with those being surveyed, so preferred that; families, extended-families & communities have active health-record-keeping, unprejudiced by the financial interests of such as Big-Pharma or Big-Surgery. I relate this to Alex Haley's book 'Roots' in which he researches his family roots, kidnapped as slaves from Africa. When back in the communities of West Africa, he learns about the Griot-story keepers of communities with memory of each individual's ancestors going back many 1000s of years. From my own research into all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') ancestors, I relate this to the ~100 (50-150) person Multihome-Dwelling-Complex (eg. Longhouse-apartment, Pueblo-townhouse & Kanata-village) where: loving intimate, intergenerational, female-male, interdisciplinary, critical-mass, economies-of-scale Circular-Economy in collective Domestic, Industrial & Commercial economies enables such CIRCULAR-ECONOMY livelihood-supported specialization. Today 70% of people live in Multihomes, but as refugees & oligarch-owned & commanded peoples we have forgotten & lost our ancient kindness. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy/participatory-accounting

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Thanks for your detail !

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My Canadian niece is raising her children as vegan but it is not a comfortable vegan eating style, but very much like some fundamentalist belief system, little girls don't fit in with peers, have so many food phobias, etc. store bought vegan food.

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Frances, There are so many dimensions to being human, with food just one aspect. Children are typically very accommodating of their peers' differences. I celebrate individual liberty, but best guided by the free dialogues parents & children might have about their choices. I was raised in a soft-drink, candy-bar, chips & cigarettes youth. I started working at 15 & left home at 16 to work as an assistant to PhD students for 3 years in High-Mountain Structural-Geological-Mapping research studies with the Canadian & US Geological Surveys. I soon realized how important food quality is to body performance & well-being. I learned culturally about whole & wild foods & herbs. When I became Vegetarian & then Vegan, my energy, health & agility improved with each plant connection.

Many of my cohorts as youth, having followed the "popular" junk-food path over these last 70 years are diabetic, carrying 100s of pounds extra, have trouble breathing & many are dead from these mainstream imposed 'monologue' dictates of forced acquiescence.

All humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') ancestors cultivated COUNCIL PROCESS in human life & relations. CP involves sitting down together in formal, scheduled, limited-time: Both-sided, Equal-time, Recorded & Published or shared dialogues. Council is the basis of Socrates 'Academia' 'education' (L 'educare' = 'to-lead-forth-from-within') & such as Mohandas Gandhi's 'Satyagraha' (Hindi 'truth-search') a reflection of India's 'Swadeshi' (H. 'indigenous' aka 'self-sufficiency') CP. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogue

Each person then freely cultivates their own worldview by being provided the formal reflections of others. I was raised with formal dialogues & 'debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight') in my family. When for example, I might be fighting with an older brother, my parents would intervene & say, "Let's hear, 'Both-sides-now"". I'd then have to re-capture my boiling mind & senses, to articulate my own experience & to listen to my brother's point-of-view. I came to really value my brother's wisdom. The social & community aspect to diet & nutrition can't be underestimated. I understand food as a major restorative part of my relationship with the Biosphere. When I eat from the plant kingdom, I act as a messenger-transporter-nutrifier of plant matter & seed. We animals are basically animators or the one's who move & transport life as just one component of our once worldwide 'indigenous' Polyculture-Orchard biosphere. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/design/1-indigenous-welcome-orchard-food-production-efficiencies

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I’ve noticed that veganism is like a fundamentalist religion. Also, the vegan personality type is not very attractive.

But maybe, if you’re vegan, you need only the fundamentals to stay healthy--and you need to keep unhealthy people like me at an arm’s length! 🤣

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I know both vegans and paleos who act the way you describe.

I'm fine with people being either way as long as they aren't militant zealots. Then I avoid eating meals with them. Very unpleasant to have them eyeballing every morsel you put in your mouth and loudly clearing their throats. "Ahem! All carbs are VERY bad for you. I never touch carbs myself. That's why I'm not obese." Flexes muscles.

Lettuce contains carbs. He gets angry when I point this out since he has a huge salad as well as his thick slab of bloody steak. Then he lectures me on the evils of salad dressing. "Who needs dressing? I sure don't."

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R Nichols, Yes agreed, None of us have reached nutritional perfection. Its a blessing to have the diversity we are, so as to be able to learn from or observe the experiences & health of each. There are so many physiology, psychology & social factors involved in the equation of our health, well-being & life-enjoyment that factors are best considered as a whole equation rather than individually like plant versus meat-based. All humanity's indigenous ancestors cultivated COUNCIL PROCESS whereby people could meet in Both-sided-Equal-time, Recorded & Published or Shared Dialogues so both sides can impassionately present their perspectives side-by-side. As conquered colonized people (everyone) we should understand how the false fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') 'exogenous' (L 'other-generated') oligarchs who have, in their own schizophrenia & pathology taken over the world & destroyed many essential social & economic humane conventions. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues

CULTURAL-MEMORY as STATISTICAL COMPILATION

I find it interesting how all humanity's 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') ancestors would maintain the record-keeper, story-teller, singer & dancers as memory for each community with individual names memory going back many millennia. The story of Roots by Alex Haley is fascinating when he meets the Griots of his people in West Africa, to find them with memory of his ancestor Kunta-Kinte as well as a range of epidemiological memory on the health & well being of people in each period. Roots of course traces memories diminished by the intentional destruction of the Graphic character records on Turtle-Island (N.America) & Africa. On each continent were graphic pictorial, character languages, which maintained long memories. Chinese characters enable the communication of over 100 different phonetic languages in China & throughout the Far-east. Berber Hieroglyphics did the same for the European, Asian Mediterranean & African over 100 languages. Turtle-Island had a set of graphic characters, which I learnt through American Indian Hand-talk, which I traced as the origin of American & Quebec Sign-Languages. All these graphic languages such as Chinese characters permitting continental, hemispheric & international communication & memory, are & were regularly drawn in the air as sign-languages. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/e-history/5-collaborative-language

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mzlizzi, RE: "... veganism is like a fundamentalist religion. ... vegan personality type is not very attractive". How many vegans you have interacted with? How close or involved have you been? Although all of us have a tendency to try & categorize or discount those we disagree with, its difficult to do so with the huge populations in China, India, Africa, South-America who either totally or basically follow vegetarian & vegan diets. In regions, not terrorized by western mining, forestry or perpetual CIA, NED & CSIS commanded regime-change wars, people on traditional 'indigenous' vegetarian & vegan diets are very healthy. & happy. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/e-history/7-work-play-overpopulation

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I rest my case.

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You are what you eat. That counts for us but also the animals we eat. If the animal eats junk then the animal becomes junk and whoever eats the animal becomes junk too.

For example, here is a study comparing conventional vs free range eggs. The difference in quality is HUGE, much more than I thought.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/pastured-vs-omega-3-vs-conventional-eggs

That also reflects the quality of it's meat. I remember eating free range guinea fowl some past christmas and it tasted awesome. But when I later bought one in a supermarket it had a huge amount of yellow lard and what should have been meat was squishy tastles goo. I bet it could not even stand on its legs when alive. Yuck.

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If only cancer was that simple. Many things seem to play a part. Those with cancer can certainly try diet, etc. It doesn't always work but at least you know you tried.

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