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Oram, Los Angeles's Wizard of EMF, was kind enough to give me this comment. I understood most of it, ha. His contact info is at the end, and I recommend him without reservation. His fee is something like $600 a day.

Robert,

Thanks for sharing your Substack post with me as well as the great comments from multiple people with observations and tips of their own. I appreciate that. You asked me to comment on their comments, which I will do now.

First of all, your house does have a smart meter on it installed by Southern California Edison (“SCE”). (You are not in the service area of Los Angeles Department of Water & Power, or LA DWP, which still mostly has analog electric meters plus new Itron ERT digital meters that have low RF, not like the Itrons used in neighboring areas around LA County served by Edison, but one can opt out of DWP’s Itron ERTs).

Your smart meter, Robert, is a digital electric meter made by Landis + Gyr with an Itron Openway radio frequency (RF) communication module within it. As is the case with other smart electric meters installed by Edison in Southern California that I see on a daily basis, I measure the RF pulses emitted by the Itron transmitter in the range of 8,000 to 15,000 microWatts per meter squared (µW/m2) at 3 feet from the smart meter (the distance where you get out of the near field from these smart meters—our RF meters all use far field antennas). Beacon signals are intermittent from the Itrons used by Edison, and are measured at roughly two to three per minute in SCE’s service area. PG&E in Northern California, on the other hand, quietly reduced their exceedingly high transmitted RF power density and number of beacon signals per minute in 2013, four years after their roll-out. PG&E’s smart meters in NorCal are now still stronger than Itron’s are here in SoCal (40,000 microWatts per meter squared (µW/m2) vs. 8-15k at 3 feet) and they are now roughly 2 beacon signals per minute, the same as SCE’s Itrons, but at least they are not at the huge RF levels and number of beacon signals per minute they were at before 2013. I measured a PG&E smart meter at a friend’s house in Moro Bay in 2012, 2015 and 2017 and saw a precipitous drop between 2012 and 2015, confirmed to me back in 2015 by a smart meter activist in NorCal.

Robert, you could opt out of your SCE Itron smart meter with no explanation needed. We probably discussed that when I was at your house in 2023, but you already had a smart meter guard on it. I find smart meter guards to be effective at reducing beacon signal RF from smart meters that are transmitted away from the house, where 95% of the emitted RF energy of the beacon signal goes, with only 5% of the RF going back into the house. This is due to the thick metal backing of the metal meter base that all smart meters are mounted upon, or on the back of a big metal breaker panel/electric meter combination box as in your house and so many others here in SoCal. That thick metal shields RF up to 90%. I measure that amount of reduction repeatedly indoors vs. outdoors. I know people feel that the metal wire mesh of the smart meter guard focuses the RF energy back into the house, but I have never measured that myself within the room behind the electric meter with a smart meter guard in place with my RF meters, so I do not believe it is a reason to not use a smart meter guard when you cannot opt out.

I use a Safe & Sound Pro II and previously used a Gigahertz Solutions HF59B RF meter. Since smart electric meter beacon signals are intermittent (or regular) but they do have time between bursts when no signal is transmitted, therefore any RF meter you use has to be watched for the microburst. The Cornet ed88T Plus that you use does have a max hold feature, as do other RF meters capable of measuring the short, quick microburst of smart meter beacon signals (Safe Living Technologies Safe & Sound Classic III and Pro II, all Gigahertz Solutions RF meters, and the Acoustimeter A-10). I believe I am seeing a reading of 39,000 µW/m2 on the max hold reading on your Cornet in the photo of your electric meter in your post, showing that your Cornet did pick up the microbursts of the Itron beacon signal. So the low reading at the moment you took that photo reflected the RF reading of your smart meter between beacon signals, but the max hold reading (the tiny number underneath the big number on the display) showed the highest burst since you turned on the Cornet and placed it on top of your smart electric meter.

Regarding DE and smart meters, including non-transmitting opt out electric meters that are still digital, I have done a study here in the SCE service area with Itron smart meters showing that Itron does not generate DE from their switch mode power supply (or not from the Centron electric meters that most Itron communication modules are located inside of in the SCE service area). See my smart meter study on my website at https://createhealthyhomes.com/education/smart-meter-study/

Next, the commenter on your post regarding the ZigBee module is completely correct. That is another RF source inside Itron’s smart meters. Yes, smart meters do monitor the customer’s electricity usage throughout a 24-hour cycle, and yes, the utility does have the capability to shut off power at peak times, if needed.

Smart meters are not good for many reasons and should be opted out of whenever possible and shielded when not. But they are also not my primary focus if they are mounted upon a garage or someone has a smart meter guard in place. There are many other EMFs that I believe people need to also pay attention to in their homes (like finding hardwired ways to connect to avoid indoor RF sources—their cell phone for starters—as well as electric fields and magnetic fields). MoCA is very good as a means to get hardwired Internet into rooms that are away from your router as it provides Internet speeds that are fast and stable, and there is no DE (dirty electricity) that you get with power line adapters. Yes, I know about that but we feel if a client can’t afford to (or won’t) pay a low voltage contractor to install a Local Area Network (LAN) of hardwired Ethernet cables in walls and they don’t have cable jacks everywhere so they can’t use MoCA, then we find that DE from their powerline adapters may be less harmful, on balance, than RF from WiFi, especially if we can knock down the DE with plug-in filters (Stetzer or Greenwave, or whole-house DE-reducing units like Satic and Sine Tamer). However, for my EHS clients, they have no choice but to spring for a hardwired LAN to be installed as they cannot tolerate the DE from powerline adapters.

Finally, when a person converts from WiFi to an Ethernet cable for their laptop, they need to be aware of two things: first, manually shut off the WiFi (and Bluetooth) on your laptop because that does not happen automatically when you plug in the Ethernet cable, and second, pay attention to AC electric fields that come from an unshielded Ethernet cable with plastic ends. You need an Ethernet Grounding Adapter from Electrahealth, plus a grounded, shielded Ethernet cable (Cat 6A, 7 or 8) with metal ends, and an Ethernet adapter that has metal tabs inside the jack to convey grounding through to the laptop that you put your hands upon, and not all adapters with tabs do that—you need to double check with a body voltage meter. You and I discussed that, Robert, when I was at your house.

Thanks for the opportunity to respond.

All the best.

Oram

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yantra's avatar

about Airplane Mode: It no longer turns off all the antennas on most phones (and other devices). In 2018 Apple introduced a new OS with it's latest phone which it eventually downloaded to their older phones. It only turns off the cellular antenna, not Wifi, Bluetooth or anything else. (much if not most of the industry followed suit). So unless your phone is turned totally off, it's Wifi and Bluetooth antennas will still be searching for connections, irradiating you and everyone near you in the process.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

important info. You need a faraday bag. https://amzn.to/45uFA97

yantra's avatar

re SmartMeters: CA has an opt-out (since 2012). Last i checked, the upfront opt out fee was $75 ($10 if low income) and $10 per month for 36 months ($5 if low income). at the end of 3 yrs, no fee. The person who pays the bill has the right to opt out, which usually means the tenant, if you rent, not the landlord.

personally, i think it is cheap health insurance. In many cases, smartmeters have been the final emf straw that has broken the camel's back for people who were formerly able to use cellphones, wifi and laptops with no overt symptoms of distress. the transmissions are extremely brief (in milliseconds) but very powerful, all day and night, with no way to turn them off.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

thanks again; I will do it

Sam Miller's avatar

Which emf meter is affordable but also decent quality?

RadioFan's avatar

Namaste Dr. Yoho: I do not know how else to reach you. Hence this comment. So many ailments are "flying under the radar" due to EMF/DE and our generally-reduced vitality. Please consider writing sometimes on our falling body temperature, possible causes, benefits of elevating it and how that can be done wisely. Thank you.

Patricia's avatar

Dear Dr Yoho,

This comment has nothing to do with the e. M f article, you have just posted, but since it is your most recent post, i'm writing because I can't find a substitute place to ask this question.

I too have been diagnosed as having early stage parkinson's disease.

I read with interest your post on Chlorine dioxide and the inclusion of AMD"s research on d m s o.

My question is this: how are you handling your diagnosis? And what are you doing to alleviate symptoms and/ or progression?

I am a mid 60's year old retired RN, intentionally unjabbed, suspicious of the medical modal i used to believe in, a fan and follower of yours, and the many researchers and physicians/ scientists who have discovered the truth and stood up for it.

This is long winded, but thank you for reading, and hopefully responding.

Blessings,

Patricia

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Hi Pat

My PD post will drop today.

best

Random Reader / JD's avatar

Not doing it on our current home but on the next one will have a 2x2 metal panel installed as a backplane to the utility meter attached to the house. Will have it grounded per RF specs, which will be independent of the house/utility grounding system. Besides any health related concerns this will also reduce stray RF noise.

erin's avatar

Doc, I asked AI about Parkinson's, and this is what it told me:

"Across various online forums, social media groups, and patient communities, there are individuals who share deeply personal experiences of significant improvement in their Parkinson’s symptoms — some describing what they feel is a reversal or near-complete recovery.

On platforms like Reddit, PatientsLikeMe, CureTogether, and specialized Parkinson’s forums, people occasionally report dramatic turnarounds after adopting intensive lifestyle changes. These include long-term meditation practitioners who describe not just reduced tremors, but periods of complete symptom absence, often tied to sustained mental stillness or spiritual practices. Some describe entering states of awareness where rigidity melts away and movement becomes fluid — experiences they say persist beyond the meditation session itself.

Others emphasize physical interventions: rigorous daily exercise regimens involving boxing, cycling, or high-intensity interval training. A number of self-reports highlight that when they maintain extreme levels of physical output — sometimes multiple hours a day — their symptoms diminish noticeably, even disappearing during and after workouts. Some refer to this as “exercise-induced remission,” though it typically returns if activity stops.

Diet also features prominently. There are accounts of people adopting ketogenic diets, fasting regimens, or plant-based cleanses and reporting slowed progression or regained mobility. A few describe combining coconut oil, green juice, turmeric, and supplements like NAD+ precursors or high-dose B vitamins with subjective improvements in energy, speech, and coordination.

A subset of individuals explore energy-based or somatic practices — such as Qigong, Feldenkrais, or Alexander Technique — and describe regaining fine motor control or balance after years of decline. Some speak of “rewiring” their nervous system through repetition and mindful movement, effectively bypassing neurological limitations.

There are also voices in the mycology and herbal communities who credit lion’s mane mushroom, psilocybin microdosing, or full-spectrum cannabis extracts with not just symptom relief but functional restoration. While anecdotal, these reports often come with detailed logs of dosage, timing, and perceived changes over months.

None of these experiences follow a uniform path, and what works dramatically for one person may do little for another. But collectively, they point to something many in the patient-led healing community feel deeply: that the body and brain retain capacities for adaptation and recovery, even in the face of progressive diagnoses.

These stories aren’t clinical proof — but they are real to those who live them. And for many, they offer not just hope, but a roadmap worth exploring."

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I covered all this in today's post

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Bard Joseph's avatar

The Predicted Plague by Junior Hippocrates is mind blowing with anecdotal evidence.

yantra's avatar

re SmartMeters: CA has an opt-out (since 2012). Last i checked, the upfront opt out fee was $75 ($10 if low income) and $10 per month for 36 months ($5 if low income). At the end of 3 yrs, no fee. The person who pays the bill has the right to opt out, which usually means the tenant, if you rent, not the landlord.

personally, i think it is cheap health insurance. In many cases, smartmeters have been the final emf straw that has broken the camel's back for people who were formerly able to use cellphones, wifi and laptops with no overt symptoms of distress. the transmissions are extremely brief (in milliseconds) but very powerful, all day and night, with no way to turn them off.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

great contributions and if you message me we can chat

George's avatar

Hey Rob, great to see this topic getting updated! One note about your smart meter, I checked the model numbers and it is certainly a smart meter that almost certainly is configured with OpenWay mesh network configuration (brand name).

I can't quite see all the detail on the meter in the photo, but it looks like you've got it set to RF which is correct for the smart meter. The question is how long you waited. Those systems can be set to broadcast anywhere between 15 seconds all the way to 15 - 30 minutes. You would have to sit there for a while to see when it broadcasts, and I guarantee you it will spike your cornet to it's highest setting.

There are ways to shield it... but if it's not near a living space, then don't bother, because you would also have to shield all your neighbour's as well.

From the specs it's likely configured to broadcast at 900Mhz which is similar to 2g/3g cellular systems.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

I'm going to get Oram back over

yantra's avatar

Dr. Yoho - i am so glad you are delving into the subject of EMF, especially because of the strong connection between wireless radiation and neurological problems, from headaches, brain fog, insomnia, anxiety, disorientation and depression to full-blown neurological disease such as Parkinsons, MS, early-onset dementia and brain cancer, including the very aggressive brain tumor, Glioblastoma multiforme.

Here is a great little video which demonstrates what smartwatches and wifi routers put out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgt7FmuEQo

also a link to Roman Shapoval's substack, which is currently the most comprehensive source of emf info on SS, and probably one of the best on the internet:

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/why-parkinsons-begins-in-the-eye

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

useful stuff Many thanks

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thank you Yantra for sharing my work, and thank you Dr. Yoho for compiling this useful info. One question: where did you hear that Stetzer filters can make things worse? Building Biologists started this rumor I believe, saying wiring errors can cause these filters to create magnetic fields. Mercola actually had his life saved by Dave Stetzer, after following shielding protocols that were doing more harm than good. Satic is basically a capacitor, and has the same parts as these filters.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Nice to meet you Roman; I just subscribed to your brilliant Substack. If you message me with your phone number, maybe we can eventually do an interview.

Christine Grace's avatar

yep. i am the only "proof" i need to know that emf is not good for me. i am my own living proof, and have many examples of profound inner guidance that has led me to know what I know beyond traditional "knowing". I am ever so grateful for people like you that share the truth. thank you.

Lena's avatar

I have read that ordinary aluminum tin foil can be used to make a faraday cage to protect from EMF pulses. I have a bad habbit of putting my laptop on my lap when sitting in my recliner. I made a tray for it wrapped in several layers of tin foil. I'm not sure it protects me but I feel more secure with it under my laptop. Am I crazy to think this will help protect me?

Bob Bichen's avatar

Any good conductor can be used to construct a Faraday cage, but a key aspect of it is that it must completely enclose the source or target. While the foil may reduce some of the EMR in the downward direction, it can actually act as a reflector in the opposite direction. Best is to put the laptop in airplane mode and use hardwire ethernet.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

just turn off the wifi receptor on the laptop, right?

yantra's avatar

and you need to make sure all the antennas (wifi, bluetooth, whatever else) actually stay off. when microsoft updates, which is fairly frequent, it turns my wifi back on. so i got the wireless card removed from the laptop.

George's avatar

And bluetooth.

Lena's avatar

Thanks. I was wondering about the reflection. I wear a shungite stone bracelet on my mousing and phone right hand. I can feel the difference in my hand when I don't. I get more neuropathy without it. I know someone who tested it and it repels EMF waves. If you put 2 bowls of water out for a dog, one with some shungite stone in it and one without, the dog will only drink from the bowl with the stone in it. You can also put some strategic shungite stones around your house to repel EMF.

Marie's avatar

Does Shungite help?

Brandy's avatar

I listened to an interview on Dr Sherry Tenpenny's substack with Corey Hillis. I ordered a few of his products (device blocker and wristband) and so far so good. I started having much more vivid dreams and less brain fog (easier to concentrate and motivate myself to do simple tasks). I just wore the wristband 24 hours a day, which I shouldn’t have to do if I get the home harmonizer. I am going to order the home harmonizer soon. I wanted to try out the other products before committing.

https://www.emfsol.com/

George's avatar

What bothers me about all these types of blockers or devices is that there is not a single document anywhere to measure their effects.

I always ask the question, if there is no measure of their effects, how does the seller even know if they work?

Brandy's avatar

Have you looked specifically into the company that I mentioned or are you just commenting that this is your experience when looking into these types of devices in general?

George's avatar

Hi Brandy, it is a very good question. Of all of the companies selling devices EMF Solutions provides by far the most information.

However, they still don't provide enough information to validate their claims.

Here are the gaps:

- They claim patent pending "secrets". Patents are never secret, that is whole purpose of them. We should be able to find and read the pending patent applications, but there is no trace of them that I could find.

- The explain the outcomes, but they don't explain any details on how this is accomplished. TBH, these solutions fall into the category of "miraculous" in my books. They have something that does not require power that create a field that protects human tissues from EMF radiation effects, yet does not impact the EMF itself in any way to disrupt it's primary information carrying capability. It's an outstanding claim, and I would love to have some clue as to how it works. How else would we verify it.

What I do like:

- They claim to have done testing and even describe the type of tests. They've done more than one type.

But why don't they publish the studies? In my years of studying medicine, I know full well one can't trust the summary of any study without reading the details. I have seen other companies that have odd products actually publish the studies so anyone can read the details. It's like the vaccine/nanobot folks and their testing. Whenever I look at the way they tested, I know for 100% certainty they botched it up because I'm familiar with the space.

The good news with EMF Solutions, is it isn't too expensive, so if it seems to work, then great, if not, small loss.

Sometimes that's a totally reasonable approach too when we simply don't know.

Brandy's avatar

That’s where I’m at. If it works and it’s not too expensive, and it doesn’t seem dangerous, it’s worth the risk, to me, to test out. I don’t do allopathic medicine (although I would for something like a car crash but not for any kind of chronic disease condition) so I’m very interested in any innovation that helps the human body cope with modern circumstances. EMF Solutions seems quite happy to engage with the public. Maybe someone (maybe you? Maybe Dr Yoho could have him on?) could pose the question about where people can take a look at their study information. One thing that I’m aware of that is a significant challenge for small businesses, is that if they don’t charge a lot of money for their product, and if they don’t have a large captured clientele, and if they actually solve a problem (thus a one time sales vs ongoing purchases), they just don’t have a lot of resources for multi million dollar studies and research. It’s the same in the food industry. If you are making real, healthy food, you don’t have a lot of money for studies, marketing, etc. It’s just reality. So I try to keep that in mind when looking for information about products from small, health centered companies. And besides, the industries that do have money for multi-billion dollar studies are the industries giving us the childhood vaccine schedule, the covid injections, SSRIs, Statins, Chemotherapy, Kraft Mac N Cheese, Coca Cola, and the list goes on. So studies and information are not always where the answer is going to be found, as much as it could be a very helpful tool.

yantra's avatar

they don't. but belief and hopium can be quite strong, especially if your bottom line (or your sense of discrimination) depends on it. which is why it's a good idea to at least deal with a company that has a 1 to 2 month return policy, so you can determine if it actually works for you. some people seem to have good results for a week or a month - and then the reverse.

Brandy's avatar

I guess I have the same question for you as the for the first person to comment. Did you look specifically into the devices that I mentioned, or are you just making a blanket statement based on your personal beliefs and accumulative experiences? Genuinely curious.

Also, I don’t spend any money in the current allopathic medical system, so I like to spend a little money supporting people who are doing actual science and who are genuinely trying to aid people in finding good health. If I end up trying something that doesn’t serve me, I am still glad to be funneling money away from the current medical industrial complex and into the hands of people who are using more natural products (or products that aim to bring balance to the human body while it is under assault from most modern technology). I try to avoid snake oil salesman but I also recognize that not all health aids will work for all people.

And I’m definitely not against harnessing the power of placebo. Believing our bodies can heal themselves and feeing secure and confident in taking charge of one’s own health has a powerful effect, even if some of the products don’t do much themselves.

Having said that, some products really do what they are sold to do. Grounding for instance, is laughed at by a lot of people as quackery but it is a real scientific and quantifiable effect. And there are excellent books about the science backing it up. Just because people don’t understand something, doesn’t make it any less real.

I am still in the exploratory stage of this technology mentioned in my original post but so far, it sounds legit to me. After ordering and trying it out, I am having a positive effect. Hopefully more positive effects will follow as I expend my use of the product.

While many people deny the harmful effects of EMFs, it’s my understanding that they truly are damaging people on a cellular level and I plan to keep looking until I find a solution. Hopefully this is it. If not, I’ll keep looking.

yantra's avatar

well Brandy . . . first of all, i do not wish to offend you and if i already have, i sincerely apologize.

secondly, i know without a doubt that many forms of artificial emf - especially wireless radiation aka RF (radiofrequency) is harmful for human physiology - physical, emotional mental and even spiritual, as well as animal life.

third, yes i did look into the emf solutions devices you reference, even watched a bit of their videos a few weeks ago just out of curiosity due to a happenstance link i followed, since i am not interested in these devices. I have also done some research into a few devices which sound simlar to those you mentioned, but have not been inspired to try them.

pseudo-scientific too-good-to-be-true scams abound in the emf harmonizer space.

on the other hand, a placebo can sometimes be your friend and some of these devices may actually work for some people.

anyway, i hope that whatever devices you end up with help you very much and i wish you well.

Brandy's avatar

Thanks for sharing and I am not offended at all. I was just responding to comments to find out why the technology was dismissed out of genuine curiosity. I am always open to new information as it is how I learn and grow. If someone knows that it is harmful or ineffective technology, I want to know more. Sounds like there may not be any actual known negative findings for this company and its technology. Maybe the future will bring more understanding. I am having a positive effect so far and plan to use more of their products with hope that they will continue to improve my health. But who knows… I am open minded to whatever experience I have and whatever credible information is out there. I also felt like your comments on placebo effects made it sound as if placebo effect is not a desired effect. In my opinion, it really can be used for good when understood properly. I read an excellent book about the placebo effect that changed my life for the better. It was very empowering. I am aware that some technologies can have a harmful effect, even when well intentioned so it’s nice when someone has something to say that can teach me why something won’t/can’t/doesn’t work. I don’t use shielding technology because it seems like it would create a dangerous environment unless you can sheld it all out, which seems impossible. That’s one of the things that drew me to this company. I live rurally but there is a 5g tower within about two miles of my home and we have electricity coming into our home as well and several electronic devices, some connected to the internet but not most. I also have a cell phone. So there is no escaping it in my life. I am motivated to look for some way to ameliorate its effects. Because I live fairly remotely, a lot of people are using satellite internet technology and so it’s definitely bouncing all around me. Crossing fingers and hoping this is the solution. If not, I’m happy to keep looking. It’s going to take someone a lot smarter than me to figure this out. I barely understand how a toaster works.

yantra's avatar

actually i was not denigrating the concept of the placebo. i just don't feel like paying lots of money for it, especially since we can create our own placebo effects. i also don't want to support scams, and there are a lot of them out there in the emf harmonizer space.

if you are interested in more information about the subject, you might want to check out Roman Shapoval's substack (he writes and podcasts what i think is the most comprehensive information about emfs on substack):

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/blushield

and /or the comments here, especially the comments by Jai, who in his/her second comment, linked a video of him opening up what i think was a blushield cube, and what was actually inside it. pretty shocking, especially considering the price and the hype.

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/blushield/comments?

George's avatar

Yeah, and there are so many variables, one would not be able to tell what helped. Your second point is very pertinent. Hope helps.

yantra's avatar

yeah - i thought of posting it last nite but didn't, because i didn't want to influence her perspective; after all the placebo effect is potent, as is it's opposite. but after your post, i decided to.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Re: Ethernet Cables

To avoid long ethernet cables running through the entire house we went with MoCA technology that runs through the coaxial wiring inside the walls of most homes. One MoCA must be connected via ethernet cable to your modem/router (non-WiFi or disabled). For other MoCA's they'll talk to the router-connected MoCA just by running a coaxial cable from wall jack to the coax input on the MoCA adapter (one for each room) and output ethernet cable directly to your device or to a splitter that has ports for all devices you wish to use in a particular room. Hardwiring home for ethernet without tripping on cables. And it's fast, much faster than WiFi.

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1

(Some purchase options discount when buying multiple MoCA's)

Some phones run on ethernet, too. Will need the proper ethernet adapter to convert ethernet to your phone's input (USB-c or other) to use internet without WiFi.

Most bedrooms get by with a 2-3 port ethernet splitter: laptop, phone, TV (if you do that to your sleep sanctuary). Living room we have a 5-7 port ethernet splitter: TV, 2 laptop ports, 2 phone ports, internet video device, internet radio device.

We have ethernet cables long enough to reach across room the MoCA devices are in, near the coaxial wall jack. Including one really long one from the living room to reach into the kitchen for recipes or watch videos while cooking. Long cables stay neat where MoCA device is when not in use.

This allows us to use an ethernet-only modem/router, no WiFi in the house ever, and at a much higher speed than any WiFi could ever be.

George's avatar

Interesting note, the first ethernet system I worked with in the 80's was coaxial based. :)

Freedom Fox's avatar

Back to the Future!! What's old is new again.

Tirion's avatar

Interesting - thank you!

"MoCA stands for Multimedia over Coax Alliance. It is a technology that uses existing coaxial cables in homes to create a high-speed, reliable internet connection without the need for additional wiring.

MoCA provides a wired network solution that offers low latency and high speeds, making it suitable for activities like streaming video and online gaming.

The technology operates over coaxial cables, which are commonly used for television and internet services, allowing users to leverage their existing infrastructure for improved network performance.

MoCA can be implemented using adapters that connect to a modem or router and other devices, enabling a stable and fast connection throughout the home.

Additionally, MoCA is designed to work within the data link and physical layers of the OSI model, providing a shared-medium, half-duplex link between nodes."

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

You have more balls in the air than we do.

I did get my nephew to do surgery on our TV and hardwire it so no wifi.

Craig's avatar

Light is part of the EMF spectrum. Different colors are different frequencies. Each color/frequency has different effects on the body. UVB causes the skin to produce vitamin D while UVC causes rapid burning. Infrared causes the body to produce nitric oxide. I understand that the Schuman resonance frequency is necessary for health. On the other hand the much much higher frequencies of microwaves cooks flesh. The dangers or benefits of EMF depends on the frequency and other characteristics of exposure. Avoiding UVB leads to bad health. Plants need the full spectrum of that portion of the EMF spectrum we call light and probably beyond. Saying that all EMF is harmful is very dangerous and leads to disease causing interventions such as sun screen or UV blocking sun glasses. We need more information than the hairs on fire EMF is going to kill us all.

yantra's avatar

non-native emf (nnEMF) is the problem.

Craig's avatar

Native vs non native isn't a valid consideration. The shorter wavelength natural EMFs are deadly. Take for instance the various wavelengths of UV, or Gamma radiation, or Cosmic radiation which are all natural. As for non natural radiation are you suggesting that PEMF is harmful? Dr Yoho recently did a posting about the health benefits of PEMF. It would be nice if it was that simple but it isn't.

yantra's avatar

PS about PEMF: i don't think the data is all in. i am somewhat intrigued but leery. i am sensitive to artificial electricity, and feel much better away from it, in fact, i feel great. i don't really want to hook myself up to it via a 120/240V source or batteries at this point. Maybe i will change my mind.

yantra's avatar

Good point. of course some natural forms of emf can be deadly. But our biology developed in tandem with them. the recent modern proliferation of vast quantities of artificial man-made radiation of all types - "nnEMF" - some with very unnatural waveforms (square, etc) and extreme modulation (as Bob Bichen refers to above) is a whole other situation.

Arthur Firstenberg, longtime emf researcher and author of "The Invisible Rainbow" and many scientific papers, quoted German biologist Ulrich Warnke from 2007: "We cannot immerse our world in a sea of electromagnetic radiation that is up to 10,000,000,000 times as strong as the natural radiation that we evolved with without destroying all of life".

Bob Bichen's avatar

Yes, natural EMF is a necessary part of human health. It's actually the modulation that does the damage when it comes to man-made EMF. The carrier is the delivery method while the modulation is the payload. Every new technology that comes out packs more information into smaller bandwidths and it's this suddenly changing digital modulation that is so harmful via effects on voltage gated calcium channels (VGCCs) and oxidative stress.