These are not available in your primary care doctor's office or the emergency room, yet they yield insights quickly and accurately. In a reasonable world, these would be the standard of care.
So to generalize from your specifics, Dr Yoho, are you or Dr Santa Ana recommending NOT ingesting DMSO and chlorine dioxide, due to possible maleffects on gut bacteria?
I ingest both daily, but chlorine dioxide as 1% (30 ppm) CDS, not MMS. Supposedly, chlorine dioxide (the gas) comes out of the refrigerated solution at body temperature and dissipates completely in the stomach, not reaching the colon that holds the biome, while MMS can continue generating chlorine dioxide along the entire tract if stomach acid is available to react to the chlorite.
I take only 2.5 mL (1/2 tsp) of DMSO in juice daily, which goes everywhere in the body, of course. I take this primarily as an anticoagulant for my AFib.
To err on the side of caution, should I discontinue one or both?
I wish that I could be more specific in this response. However, I can say that I’ve been contemplating this issue and the effects on the Microbiome for at least a year now. Once you studied the Microbiome in detail, you begin to realize it’s not only the keystone species, but the balance is between them that are so important and maintaining a healthy Microbiome. Ingesting anything that affects this could be an issue. At this point, I cannot tell you specifically yes or no. Keep an eye on my Substack in the future because if I find out anything, I’m gonna be publishing it. Be well.
What a fascinating article! Thanks for sharing so much of your personal medical information. The whole 'kefir is ruining your biome' seems counter-intuitive, but what do I know? The fact that your damaged gut affects nutrient absorption really jumped out at me, and is something I want to address in the near future. I'm planning on seeing an integrative practitioner in the next couple of weeks, and will inquire about the OligoScan. (I know he offers chelation therapy, so maybe he offers that, as well.)
Thank you Dr Yoho for hosting Dr Tamara, and for more wonderfully candid discussion of your own health issues and test results!
Thank you Dr Tamara, for giving us the inside scoop on some of your health gadget arsenol. Having heard about the Angioscan months ago from you, I went on a search to obtain it, finding eventually that the Russian company that developed it, no longer make it due to it being banned by the Russian government because it is not registered as a medical device. This banning of useful devices is reminiscent of Australian cartel, and I suggested perhaps that they start making it again, sans any therapeutic or diagnostic claims. I suppose they have thought of all that.
I had previously dismissed the Oligoscan. I have no issue with the spectrometry side of it. However, it doesn't compute for me how it can possibly tell the difference between intracellular and extracellular compartments...what is the mechanism here? Any information or knowledge you have of the science behind how it actually does this, would be greatly appreciated. xx
Thank you for all you do Dr. Santa Ana. These are incredible tools and wish I could use these types of tools in my practice. It is sad how regulated the medical field is. Quite frustrating to say the least!
I looked up to see if there is aluminum in B12 injections. Here's what I found. "Certain injectable forms of the synthetic B12 variant cyanocobalamin contain trace aluminum. Other B12 forms like oral methylcobalamin generally do not have aluminum." Please advise what injection to take that is free of aluminum. It stated people with kidney problems shouldn't take the injection.
Here is the million dollar 800 pound gorilla in the room question for you
How well or non existent are the results similarity from repeating the scan hourly for 2-6 hours after the initial scan??
Especially the ZYTO scan??? The results from repeat testing on the same day should be within acceptable limits to make this testing acceptable. Statistical scoring of course. But I think all of the machines Dr. Santa Ana uses (except HRV) don't repeat resultants well and robust.
The Oligo scan should measure Titanium also, which it does not,
for the 1,000's getting Ti dental implants. I am all for the what these machines attempt to measure. At least they have not murdered millions of people. RICO RICO RICO
Maybe time to update your OSR dose with Dr Kennedy DDS, maybe not. Or start the dreaded Niacin sweat lodge protocol.
Thank you for your comment. Reproducibility is always a concern. Zyto is looking at the body at that moment. With trillions of reactions going on, an hour later, the body's main emphasis may have shifted. That does not mean the information is inaccurate or useless. However, these tests (scans) are not used to make a diagnosis but rather to incorporate all the results (which often compare well) to help point a practitioner in the correct direction. And, more than would be expected, reveal hidden issues that may need to be addressed! The practitioner's competency and knowledge are essential for these as well. And it is joyful when a patient who has been elsewhere multiple times is helped.
Specific genes are entirely missing. The GSTM1 and GSTT1 genes encode glutathione S-transferases and are completely deleted in these individuals. This is associated with higher mercury levels and altered detoxification capacity. Null is what is typically reported.
Spectrophotometry of the body is basically “shine a known light in, see what comes back, and infer what’s inside from how the light changed.” Devices differ a lot in sophistication, but they all exploit the fact that different molecules and tissues absorb, scatter, or reflect specific wavelengths in characteristic ways.
Again, the interpreter's skill comes into play. Let me give you an example. A high zinc and copper score usually indicates a blockade, in which copper has driven the zinc peripherally. The patient actually needs more of both minerals. This is important because you need zinc to activate P5P and make neurotransmitters. You need it centrally!
Have always considered elevated Hg mostly exposure related. Amalgams, coal fire power plants, fish, etc. As you allude Hg is a neurotoxin that is difficult to avoid.
Fully understand the interplay between minerals including trace. The biggest component of neurotranmitters is essestial fatty acids yes?
You are good! Yes, we actually breathe in much more recently than in the past! And with depleted selenium levels, which usually complex to make Hg less toxic, I see clinically more Hg issues. Fatty acids yes, for the brain! But what I am seeing is lack of P5P and zinc in NT formation. Very common.
Certainly more evenly distributed. If you lived downwind of a coal plant AND ate fish from the wrong lake or about any ocean that could be a real problem. Lets not forget amalgams effects.
Could study a geographic location and correlate it with Vax history...
Tamara if that is true that glutathione production can not occur due to the enzymes not being present, those individuals could not detox any xenobiotic.
Totally get upregulating metabolic pathways using nutrients
Oh, I am sure there are alternate pathways as well, some of which we may not even be aware of yet. And then we have the rate-limiting substrate issue too! Keep on !
Wow, what hard work to be healthy. Please God, take me while I'm asleep. Robert, as proof of the pudding, I'm sure your readers would like to see an up-to-date selfie after being an obedient boy following doctor's orders. Methinks you should look at least ten years younger and have your natural hair colour back. BTW, it seems like the middle cherub behind your photograph is doing painful things to the man's hair.
This is a rather brilliant collaboration. Have been deep in the study of Heavy Metal detox evaluation and treatment for several decades. As Scientific methodology requires
Pre and Post testing is required, coupled with clinical outcomes.
The additional explanations provided by Dr. Yoho are stellar and necessary.
The fact that Quackwatch takes issue is noteworthy. That implies a useful modality
for those of us who have witnessed their manuvers over the years.
There has been a constant cascade of electro diagnostic tools. This one peaks interest.
Challenge testing is best with a chelating agent that is relatively inexpensive and easily accomodated. Urinary tests documenting excretion is direct. As mentioned it is likely the
best attempt to quantify a complex problem.
Zeolite in the proper form to my knowledge is the best agent. DMSA is considered non toxic used in ER rooms for acute toxicity. Doing this via transdemal testing and treatment has many advantages assuming it actually works.
No, I generally do not like most zeolites. I do like and fully trust zeocharge for multiple reasons. Talk with Jeff Hoyt at zeolightlabs.com. He seems knowledgeable.
Have been on Dr. Exleys sub for some time. He has been persecuted for exposing Al as a toxin. If one is a hammer, everything is a nail. He is really into silica but very careful suggesting how to use. Horsetail or equisitum is the plant highest in silica.
Many of us who have been interested in remediating HM toxicity also insist on evidence, cost effectiveness, pre and post testing. Have much direct experience with Zeolite in this domain for the afore mentioned reasons.
DMSA is the strongest chelator of heavy metals on offer however it is a huge draw and hard on the kidneys. One is best advised to wait a long interval before another dose.
Zeolite does not have these issues. The chemistry suggests strongly that it would be useful to attract and bind heavy metals with positive charges as the mineral has the rare negative charge. Zeolite is formed when lava reaches the sea and explodes. Pele on the Big Island was just blasting 1500' into the air. Good friend was there sending live vids.
The Zeolite "cages" suggest that once bound there is no concern of redistribution.
There are many details.
If a microcurrent electrical impedance (there has been a consistent cascade over at least 25 years) was demonstrably as or even more useful, that is a massive tech breakthrough...
Serum testing is useful to document acute exposure, but useless for total body burden. No testing to date is useful for body burden of any heavy metal. Excretion (urinary) is relatively cheap way to monitor when adequate removal has occurred. Imperfect but useful.
Thanks for putting this together for us. Like "Serum testing is useful to document acute exposure, but useless for total body burden. No testing to date is useful for body burden of any heavy metal."
I am doubtful of Zeolyte b c the two smartest people in this room have written opinions that it does not work--Boyd Haley and Exley. You did not mention NBMI or OSR, Boyd's chelator. It has $100 million of research backing and clearly helps massive, acute mercury exposures symptomatically, such as those of Peruvian miners. Search my Substack for my two articles about that. You can get it from David Kennedy, but it is costly.
Zeolite is basically dangerous I believe with one exception. It may create arsenic or aluminum toxicity if not cleaned properly. The cages may be in forms that not useful. Zeocharge has shown diminishmeny in heavy metal toxicity without mineral derangement.
For the edification of readers expertise is necessary for chelation to be successful. If zeolite is considered the good news is that its harmless unlike most other options. The bad news is that it requires access to a product that has "clean cages" to be effective. Zeolite might be compared to a magnet droped on dirt that picks us iron shards. If all or most of the receptor sites are filled the product is useless. Lot of details...
If the microcurrent machine works these are non issues...
There is a constellation of chelators that work to include Penicillin.
Foodies trot out cilantro, chlorella, garlic, strawberrues etc. The issue is made worse by current inability to quantify body burden. Weak chelators are... weak.
In any case heavy metals are most definitely a serious issue that are associated or causitive for a very wide range of issues including malignancy.
Still interested in the latest machine, before and after results...
I once test a patient and she showed up with multiple mercury issues. After years of testing this patient, I had never seen this. I asked her and she said she was taking maximal intake of cilantro. That particular novice clinician had failed to mention cilantro loosens mercury but needs to be followed up with a binder.
Exley as mentioned has great expertise on Al and is a silica advocate however is short on evidence when requested. Haley has his own product.
I like simple relatively inexpensive solutions. As mention have performed well over a hundred pre and post challege tests as documentation.
Neither doctor is a clinician...
In nature often a problem plant, like poison ivy, has the remedy growing in close proximity as is the case with jewel weed. The same correlation has been made for Zeolite.
For this reason alone refuting whether something "works" is worse than suspect. Ivory tower syndrome?
Have a huge issue with "trade" names that do not disclose ingredients as
the Natural Health Market esp. MLM companies love them.
As mentioned if you are a hammer, everything is a nail.
Oh wow. I wuz gonna yell at you for not doing the stool transplant yet! And you are about to do it! That is so exciting, Robert. Keeping my fingers crossed. This is so cool! :-D
Hug. You are such a fighter.
Have you yet found any fellow P patients who were successful at curing P?
So to generalize from your specifics, Dr Yoho, are you or Dr Santa Ana recommending NOT ingesting DMSO and chlorine dioxide, due to possible maleffects on gut bacteria?
I ingest both daily, but chlorine dioxide as 1% (30 ppm) CDS, not MMS. Supposedly, chlorine dioxide (the gas) comes out of the refrigerated solution at body temperature and dissipates completely in the stomach, not reaching the colon that holds the biome, while MMS can continue generating chlorine dioxide along the entire tract if stomach acid is available to react to the chlorite.
I take only 2.5 mL (1/2 tsp) of DMSO in juice daily, which goes everywhere in the body, of course. I take this primarily as an anticoagulant for my AFib.
To err on the side of caution, should I discontinue one or both?
I wish that I could be more specific in this response. However, I can say that I’ve been contemplating this issue and the effects on the Microbiome for at least a year now. Once you studied the Microbiome in detail, you begin to realize it’s not only the keystone species, but the balance is between them that are so important and maintaining a healthy Microbiome. Ingesting anything that affects this could be an issue. At this point, I cannot tell you specifically yes or no. Keep an eye on my Substack in the future because if I find out anything, I’m gonna be publishing it. Be well.
If I were you, I would keep doing what you are doing.
I am an unusual case and I have to try everything to restore my gut flora.
Your DMSO that reaches the gut is super dilute.
CDS is low concentration.
Good job on figuring all this out.
Dr Yoho, have you seen Dr Christopher Exley's article re Parkinsons and Aluminium on substack. It's dated January 26.
What a fascinating article! Thanks for sharing so much of your personal medical information. The whole 'kefir is ruining your biome' seems counter-intuitive, but what do I know? The fact that your damaged gut affects nutrient absorption really jumped out at me, and is something I want to address in the near future. I'm planning on seeing an integrative practitioner in the next couple of weeks, and will inquire about the OligoScan. (I know he offers chelation therapy, so maybe he offers that, as well.)
I am curious as to what Tamara considers “normal” cholesterol?
You know this, but cholesterol is a useless measure of cardiovascular mortality.
You are correct. Cholesterol is just one of the MANY false narratives in the industrial medical complex
The only reason I inquired is because she mentioned it but gave no specifics
Thank you Dr Yoho for hosting Dr Tamara, and for more wonderfully candid discussion of your own health issues and test results!
Thank you Dr Tamara, for giving us the inside scoop on some of your health gadget arsenol. Having heard about the Angioscan months ago from you, I went on a search to obtain it, finding eventually that the Russian company that developed it, no longer make it due to it being banned by the Russian government because it is not registered as a medical device. This banning of useful devices is reminiscent of Australian cartel, and I suggested perhaps that they start making it again, sans any therapeutic or diagnostic claims. I suppose they have thought of all that.
I had previously dismissed the Oligoscan. I have no issue with the spectrometry side of it. However, it doesn't compute for me how it can possibly tell the difference between intracellular and extracellular compartments...what is the mechanism here? Any information or knowledge you have of the science behind how it actually does this, would be greatly appreciated. xx
Thank you for all you do Dr. Santa Ana. These are incredible tools and wish I could use these types of tools in my practice. It is sad how regulated the medical field is. Quite frustrating to say the least!
Why not publish contemporary blood urine hair results with the Oligoscan.
Just to get some corroboration perhaps . . .
standard blood tests all normal inc inflammatory markers. Blood D level is 120
I looked up to see if there is aluminum in B12 injections. Here's what I found. "Certain injectable forms of the synthetic B12 variant cyanocobalamin contain trace aluminum. Other B12 forms like oral methylcobalamin generally do not have aluminum." Please advise what injection to take that is free of aluminum. It stated people with kidney problems shouldn't take the injection.
Thank you
methylcobalamin only
Dr. Buttar was murdered a few years ago, FYI....
Here is the million dollar 800 pound gorilla in the room question for you
How well or non existent are the results similarity from repeating the scan hourly for 2-6 hours after the initial scan??
Especially the ZYTO scan??? The results from repeat testing on the same day should be within acceptable limits to make this testing acceptable. Statistical scoring of course. But I think all of the machines Dr. Santa Ana uses (except HRV) don't repeat resultants well and robust.
The Oligo scan should measure Titanium also, which it does not,
for the 1,000's getting Ti dental implants. I am all for the what these machines attempt to measure. At least they have not murdered millions of people. RICO RICO RICO
Maybe time to update your OSR dose with Dr Kennedy DDS, maybe not. Or start the dreaded Niacin sweat lodge protocol.
Thank you Dr. Yoho, great article.
I'm on 200 mg a day of OSR.
Thank you for your comment. Reproducibility is always a concern. Zyto is looking at the body at that moment. With trillions of reactions going on, an hour later, the body's main emphasis may have shifted. That does not mean the information is inaccurate or useless. However, these tests (scans) are not used to make a diagnosis but rather to incorporate all the results (which often compare well) to help point a practitioner in the correct direction. And, more than would be expected, reveal hidden issues that may need to be addressed! The practitioner's competency and knowledge are essential for these as well. And it is joyful when a patient who has been elsewhere multiple times is helped.
Am somewhat baffled by Genetic testing showing inabilty to detox Hg.
Hg is a heavy metal, detoxing implies breaking it down. It is already in its smallest form.
Chelating agents bind to toxic metals allowing urinary or fecal excretion.
How is this accomplished via trans dermal spectrometry?
Specific genes are entirely missing. The GSTM1 and GSTT1 genes encode glutathione S-transferases and are completely deleted in these individuals. This is associated with higher mercury levels and altered detoxification capacity. Null is what is typically reported.
Spectrophotometry of the body is basically “shine a known light in, see what comes back, and infer what’s inside from how the light changed.” Devices differ a lot in sophistication, but they all exploit the fact that different molecules and tissues absorb, scatter, or reflect specific wavelengths in characteristic ways.
Again, the interpreter's skill comes into play. Let me give you an example. A high zinc and copper score usually indicates a blockade, in which copper has driven the zinc peripherally. The patient actually needs more of both minerals. This is important because you need zinc to activate P5P and make neurotransmitters. You need it centrally!
Have always considered elevated Hg mostly exposure related. Amalgams, coal fire power plants, fish, etc. As you allude Hg is a neurotoxin that is difficult to avoid.
Fully understand the interplay between minerals including trace. The biggest component of neurotranmitters is essestial fatty acids yes?
You are good! Yes, we actually breathe in much more recently than in the past! And with depleted selenium levels, which usually complex to make Hg less toxic, I see clinically more Hg issues. Fatty acids yes, for the brain! But what I am seeing is lack of P5P and zinc in NT formation. Very common.
sorry for the late reply... this window was one of over 50 that I had open and was looking to see. Sipping a mug of Horsetail tea at the moment.
Equisitum as you likely know, has much Selenium...
No co-incidences.
Hg exposure is largely vaxes
Certainly more evenly distributed. If you lived downwind of a coal plant AND ate fish from the wrong lake or about any ocean that could be a real problem. Lets not forget amalgams effects.
Could study a geographic location and correlate it with Vax history...
That might flush out some smoking guns.
Tamara if that is true that glutathione production can not occur due to the enzymes not being present, those individuals could not detox any xenobiotic.
Totally get upregulating metabolic pathways using nutrients
Oh, I am sure there are alternate pathways as well, some of which we may not even be aware of yet. And then we have the rate-limiting substrate issue too! Keep on !
was thinking about Oligoscan tech...
Heavy metals are known to sequester in fatty tissue and bone.
Acute exposure is said to be in the blood for a short time.
Why is it that testing the skin using spectrometry would be an accurate
method of analysis? And what post treatment tests validate efficacy?
Wow, what hard work to be healthy. Please God, take me while I'm asleep. Robert, as proof of the pudding, I'm sure your readers would like to see an up-to-date selfie after being an obedient boy following doctor's orders. Methinks you should look at least ten years younger and have your natural hair colour back. BTW, it seems like the middle cherub behind your photograph is doing painful things to the man's hair.
LOL
This is a rather brilliant collaboration. Have been deep in the study of Heavy Metal detox evaluation and treatment for several decades. As Scientific methodology requires
Pre and Post testing is required, coupled with clinical outcomes.
The additional explanations provided by Dr. Yoho are stellar and necessary.
The fact that Quackwatch takes issue is noteworthy. That implies a useful modality
for those of us who have witnessed their manuvers over the years.
There has been a constant cascade of electro diagnostic tools. This one peaks interest.
Challenge testing is best with a chelating agent that is relatively inexpensive and easily accomodated. Urinary tests documenting excretion is direct. As mentioned it is likely the
best attempt to quantify a complex problem.
Zeolite in the proper form to my knowledge is the best agent. DMSA is considered non toxic used in ER rooms for acute toxicity. Doing this via transdemal testing and treatment has many advantages assuming it actually works.
Tamara thinks Zeolyte is helpful. Boyd Haley and The Aluminum Man Chris Exley say it is not.
No, I generally do not like most zeolites. I do like and fully trust zeocharge for multiple reasons. Talk with Jeff Hoyt at zeolightlabs.com. He seems knowledgeable.
Have been on Dr. Exleys sub for some time. He has been persecuted for exposing Al as a toxin. If one is a hammer, everything is a nail. He is really into silica but very careful suggesting how to use. Horsetail or equisitum is the plant highest in silica.
Many of us who have been interested in remediating HM toxicity also insist on evidence, cost effectiveness, pre and post testing. Have much direct experience with Zeolite in this domain for the afore mentioned reasons.
DMSA is the strongest chelator of heavy metals on offer however it is a huge draw and hard on the kidneys. One is best advised to wait a long interval before another dose.
Zeolite does not have these issues. The chemistry suggests strongly that it would be useful to attract and bind heavy metals with positive charges as the mineral has the rare negative charge. Zeolite is formed when lava reaches the sea and explodes. Pele on the Big Island was just blasting 1500' into the air. Good friend was there sending live vids.
The Zeolite "cages" suggest that once bound there is no concern of redistribution.
There are many details.
If a microcurrent electrical impedance (there has been a consistent cascade over at least 25 years) was demonstrably as or even more useful, that is a massive tech breakthrough...
Serum testing is useful to document acute exposure, but useless for total body burden. No testing to date is useful for body burden of any heavy metal. Excretion (urinary) is relatively cheap way to monitor when adequate removal has occurred. Imperfect but useful.
Thanks for putting this together for us. Like "Serum testing is useful to document acute exposure, but useless for total body burden. No testing to date is useful for body burden of any heavy metal."
I am doubtful of Zeolyte b c the two smartest people in this room have written opinions that it does not work--Boyd Haley and Exley. You did not mention NBMI or OSR, Boyd's chelator. It has $100 million of research backing and clearly helps massive, acute mercury exposures symptomatically, such as those of Peruvian miners. Search my Substack for my two articles about that. You can get it from David Kennedy, but it is costly.
Zeolite is basically dangerous I believe with one exception. It may create arsenic or aluminum toxicity if not cleaned properly. The cages may be in forms that not useful. Zeocharge has shown diminishmeny in heavy metal toxicity without mineral derangement.
For the edification of readers expertise is necessary for chelation to be successful. If zeolite is considered the good news is that its harmless unlike most other options. The bad news is that it requires access to a product that has "clean cages" to be effective. Zeolite might be compared to a magnet droped on dirt that picks us iron shards. If all or most of the receptor sites are filled the product is useless. Lot of details...
If the microcurrent machine works these are non issues...
There is a constellation of chelators that work to include Penicillin.
Foodies trot out cilantro, chlorella, garlic, strawberrues etc. The issue is made worse by current inability to quantify body burden. Weak chelators are... weak.
In any case heavy metals are most definitely a serious issue that are associated or causitive for a very wide range of issues including malignancy.
Still interested in the latest machine, before and after results...
I once test a patient and she showed up with multiple mercury issues. After years of testing this patient, I had never seen this. I asked her and she said she was taking maximal intake of cilantro. That particular novice clinician had failed to mention cilantro loosens mercury but needs to be followed up with a binder.
Exley as mentioned has great expertise on Al and is a silica advocate however is short on evidence when requested. Haley has his own product.
I like simple relatively inexpensive solutions. As mention have performed well over a hundred pre and post challege tests as documentation.
Neither doctor is a clinician...
In nature often a problem plant, like poison ivy, has the remedy growing in close proximity as is the case with jewel weed. The same correlation has been made for Zeolite.
For this reason alone refuting whether something "works" is worse than suspect. Ivory tower syndrome?
Have a huge issue with "trade" names that do not disclose ingredients as
the Natural Health Market esp. MLM companies love them.
As mentioned if you are a hammer, everything is a nail.
Oh wow. I wuz gonna yell at you for not doing the stool transplant yet! And you are about to do it! That is so exciting, Robert. Keeping my fingers crossed. This is so cool! :-D
Hug. You are such a fighter.
Have you yet found any fellow P patients who were successful at curing P?
It's complex, the treatments help, even Sinemet, but so far I'm a virgin for that stuff.
Sounds good. A little like Star Trek.