I shake my head at our stupidity, and the criminal negligence of the doctors who prescribe this poison. We eat crap, stare at screens and don't exercise, and have crummy sleep. Oh, boy! A new "miracle drug" that makes us lose the weight, and we don't have to lift a finger. And it's FREE! No thanks. I'm 71, and losing weight has become gradually more difficult for me. I had gained 25 lbs. over the past 2 years due to undiagnosed hypothyroidism. Synthroid and some supplements stabilized that for the moment, but then I was diagnosed with lung cancer. I immediately switched to a ketogenic diet and started taking BHB. I've dropped about 35 lbs. in 5 months. Never once did I consider Ozempic, nor would I. In my case it was a cancer problem, not a weight loss problem. The weight loss was a fringe benefit. My point here is that you only need to change your lifestyle and take an inexpensive (and safe) supplement to lose weight at any age. (Thanks to author Travis Christofferson and his book Ketones: The Fourth Fuel, for hipping me to BHB!)
I read the article and all the comments but I didn't see the natural supplement Berberine mentioned anywhere. It's sometimes referred to as "Natures Ozempic" because of it's similar benefits but without the terrible side effects. It's been shown to help with weight loss but through a different mechanism, it's equally effective as statins (cholesterol reducing drugs), it significantly reduces fasting blood glucose levels in people with a glucose fasting index of 100 or higher, and unlike Ozempic it actually supports the gut biome instead of destroying it. It's one of the many supplements I have on my shelf.
“Akkermansia muciniphila [a probiotic] may serve as a natural therapeutic agent for metabolic disorders with mechanisms that complement those of GLP-1 drugs.”
This is the “bottom line” distillation of a 4-paragraph summary by Brave AI to the query, “Discuss the relationship between Akkermansia muciniphila and GLP-1 drugs.” The entire summary, including its several methods of action, is worth reading, but I will not hijack the comment section by reproducing its entirety.
I did it the hard way, IF, cardio/yoga/lifting, even though that nasty drug was available. I don't regret my choice one bit. I don't trust Big Pharm one tiny bit, haven't for decades. Convid was just the crap icing on that shit sandwich.
"stomach paralysis"??? Yeah, sure, sign me up for that, as I'm sure it's great! Mmm...nausea...yum yum!
The venom peptide used in GLP-1 drugs comes from the glia monster lizard…..it paralyses the nerves that induce peristalsis, slows down stomach emptying and over the long term damages these nerves beyond repair.
The added bonus of losing unwanted fat is losing wanted muscle, especially in the legs and face and we need to hold on to the muscle as we age or face the prospect of walkers and wheelchairs.. frailty is going to come knocking sooner if you choose to rob your body of nutrients and muscle …using manmade concoctions that have not passed the passage of time against the outcome of stupid interventions.
It’s not the GLP-1 that is causing these longer term issues it’s the venom peptides they add to slow the gastric emptying alongside temporary paralysis of the nerves to the stomach and may erode the nerve sheaths ..which then impede nerve function in the longer term.
GLP-1 is good, when it comes from our foods , bad when it’s manipulated via synthetic peptides combined with venom peptides.
You can increase GLP-1 naturally from certain foods ..without damaging the nerves in the digestive tract.
If your pancreas is already running full time pumping insulin to start with… due to insulin resistance this increases fat storage.
Please try to read the book “Metabolical” by Dr Robert Lustig.
The conundrum is insulin output vs fat storage.
GLP-1 is made in the intestines NOT the stomach or circulation…glp-1 also lowers uptake of glucose..high glucose causes high insulin which then makes the liver store fat …if it’s high corn fructose then it stores the fat around itself.. which slows metabolic rate , so you end up storing more fat because you cannot burn off the sugars.
It also slow downward spiral..
Blood sugars can be controlled by keeping to an eating window…which in turn increases metabolic rate.. which in turn loses weight… even while you rest.
Thank you. Have been on a strict meat, veg, fruit, no seed oils, no dairy for about 5 months. Definitely not overweight, just desperate to get my retinal vasculitis under control. Quite likely mould, eyes triggered for the first time 2 weeks back after feeding 5 bales to cows. (First trigger ever) Doing detoxes, started detox baths, do sauna etc etc
Can I suggest you research astaxanthin which is probably going to help here due to its ability to clear up inflammation and feed the retina with lutein and zeaxanthin..
Olive leaf extract is by far the safest antiviral, antibiotic, antimicrobial.
The virus bacteria may have entered through the tear duct … dare I say this?
CLO2 or DMSO will figure out what is producing the excess ROS and correct it.. I can explain more if you need to understand its mechanism but Dr Yoho has already covered the basics of these two protocols .
I hope you make a full recovery
Retinal Vasculitis
Description: Retinal vasculitis (RV) is the inflammation of the blood vessels in the retina, which can lead to swelling, bleeding, vessel blockage, and a serious risk of permanent vision loss due to retinal ischemia and neovascularization.
Causes: RV can be idiopathic (no known cause) or associated with systemic autoimmune diseases such as Behçet's disease, sarcoidosis, multiple sclerosis, or systemic lupus erythematosus, or due to infectious causes.
Conventional Treatment: Treatment is determined by the underlying cause and severity. The mainstay of therapy for non-infectious RV typically involves:
Corticosteroids: Used to control acute inflammation.
Immunosuppressive agents: For long-term management and to spare the patient from chronic steroid side effects. These can include medications like methotrexate, azathioprine, or mycophenolate mofetil.
Biologic agents: Such as infliximab or adalimumab, used in severe or refractory cases.
Laser photocoagulation or anti-VEGF injections: Used to manage complications like abnormal new blood vessel growth (neovascularization).
Astaxanthin
Description: Astaxanthin is a natural carotenoid pigment found in marine life (like salmon and microalgae) with powerful antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties.
Ocular Research: Preclinical and some human studies suggest astaxanthin may offer benefits for general eye health by:
Neutralizing oxidative stress: It is a potent free-radical scavenger that protects retinal cells from damage.
Reducing inflammation: It inhibits pro-inflammatory molecules, which helps calm inflammation in retinal cells.
Improving blood flow: It has been shown to potentially increase blood flow velocity to the retina and ciliary body.
Neuroprotection: It may help protect retinal ganglion cells from apoptosis (cell death) in conditions like glaucoma or diabetic retinopathy.
Role in Vasculitis: Recent animal studies on systemic autoimmune vasculitis (ANCA-associated vasculitis) have indicated that astaxanthin may help ameliorate organ damage by reducing inflammation and oxidative stress markers. However, these are experimental findings and have not yet led to an approved treatment protocol for human retinal vasculitis.
Summary
Astaxanthin has promising properties for eye health and inflammation, but it is not a substitute for the high-potency, medically supervised treatments required for managing retinal vasculitis. Retinal vasculitis is a complex condition that requires immediate and expert medical attention to preserve vision. Anyone with symptoms of retinal vasculitis should consult an ophthalmologist or a medical professional for a proper diagnosis and treatment plan.
Are all GLP1 drugs bad? I’ve been trying to avoid the super strong, injectable autoimmune biologics. Currently on LDN but saw that they are suggesting trying a GLP one in a low dose to help the LDN out. Any input appreciated
The article says it paralyses the stomach, does that sound sensible, ? cut out the junk food eat fresh fruit vegetables and fish and get off the carbs and weight will gradually normalise.
My question merely was that, given the physical metabolic illness of diabetes, is Ozempic interacting differently (and perhaps more favorably) with the body than with someone without diabetes. I am not a doctor, which is why I asked a question of the doctor. Yes, I see his reply.
Dh has Type II and is not overweight. His diet is superb. Ozempic has helped to keep his blood sugars well within range for five years now with no side effects.
Diabetes , like many other "diseases", can be reversed with the correct diet,this is not a quick fix, but it is safe , does not cause gastric paralysis , or blindness, and does not deplete the bank account, how many diabetics will avoid limb amputation, if they follow safe and sensible protocols.
Time for a reset. Instead of looking for a reason to "use" it consider thinking of this offering and countless others as the latest attempt to make people dependent of
I know 2 men, one 84 and the other in his 40’s who use this poison. Neither can control their blood sugar. They are constantly dizzy. The one in his 40s have that rip off bariatric stomach surgery which medicare also covers.
Older people can be prone to falls , this could mean a broken hip , surgery for older unfit people poses risk from anaesthesia, after surgery getting mobile immediately in early recovery is crucial , to avoid muscle loss , and to get good blood oxygen levels , crucial to have the bed RAISED to help breathing , and to avoid any lung problems , which may incapacitate or worse , diabetics , need special care in hospital settings , particularly with sterile wound management as healing in these people may be slower , GOOD nourishing food and fresh water is Essential , so keep an eye out for your older friends if they are in hospital.
Eat a healthy diet, nothing is achieved without effort, diabetes can be reversed , it will take time and effort , there is NO quick fix, it paralyses the stomach , isn't that enough warning?
Well, when I first heard the audio and saw that it was Tucker Carlson interviewed Callie Means, I just stopped listening immediately. Callie Means and his sister have a very bad record of being grifters on false medical milieu.
I will go back and try to read the text for your commentary.
I read quite a bit about Ozembic and I remember one article I read is that it can cause blindness.
I also heard that one of the GLP 1 type drugs costs about $2500 for a pen and a shot in your rib cage area.
Who can afford that.. I deduced that these drugs do not act like amphetamines but their side effects are of a different kind.
If a conversation ensues on this, I may look up some of my files and chime in.
Thanks, but document your assertions about Means here. It sounds like he has found salvation by now. If what you say proves to be true, I will pin it to the top of the comments.
Means is correct about ozempic just like he was correct about the ludicrousness of hep B shots for babies. I watched his original interview w/Tucker about a year before the one you mentioned. He presented himself as a a whistleblower - he was a knowledgeable industry insider calling out big food & corrupt deals (like one made w/NAACP to keep coke/pop on food stamp availability). I fell for his shtick hook line & sinker. When you discover his real background you see there is no window of his life where he could’ve become such an experienced insider. A huge red flag was when he refused to say that the COVID shots should be removed & further studied (this was repeatedly asked over a 90 min interview on Danny Jones podcast w/Dr Mary Bowen & Jack Kruse). His responses appeal to emotions & he never answers direct questions. His sister is even weirder - who quits in their final year of residency because you’re suddenly disillusioned by the medical industry? You would still get the MD after your name & your views would carry all that much more authority. Instead she’s hyping/selling wearables for your “health”. I guess the EMF’s are ok as long as we go to a local farmers market for your food. Get back to the earth & live like your ancestors but make sure you’re tracking via a device that tells you you’re healthy - WTF. These psyops are so sophisticated - give the masses some truths so they trust you & then sneak in data tracking devices. Wait until you read about their dad - we live in a world with really evil people trying to control us & the Means siblings appear trained for their roles.
What is said is true. Who cares who Means used to be. Right now he is telling the truth....that is all that matters. The truth is undeniable. Obvious. Horrendous.
I think Ursomoney just posted a link to Debbie Lerman YouTube channel that covers the negative.
I am not saying that what Callie Means said about Ozempic is factually incorrect. But he and his sister have some kind of other dishonest political game on the public going on.
GLP1s are an absolute gift from pharma to pharma. If these people don’t die from their use they are guaranteed to be a life long medical patient that will purchase more pharma products. The key to our health is in our gut biome - what could go wrong by paralyzing that organ?
You are exactly right about the Means’ siblings - total grifters, & psyop created by their father?? Everybody read this:
Thank you, URsomoney, for supplying the most informative and on-target links.
I sort have been on a completely different path in all of this COVID garbage. I want facts and evidence, and if there is such a thing as "science" anymore, I want science facts.
I shy away movements that have the word "freedom" in them.
I like true or false, right or wrong orientation.
One last thing. RFK Jr was just a tool for Trump to win a second term.
Many people, including myself, are disappointed in how RFK Jr has completely switched us away from all the subjects that at first were being nicely reported on by Children's Health Defense. Now CHD has completely changed its "mission statement." Here it is.
" Children’s Health Defense® is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Our mission is ending childhood health epidemics by eliminating toxic exposure. We will restore and protect the health of children by eliminating environmental exposures, holding responsible parties accountable, and establishing safeguards to prevent future harm of children's health.
I am so deep in the weeds w/how this country & every other country is run that I’m just looking for people who are honest & trying to do some good. There is not a single person that gets “elected” to any position of importance without inside knowledge of how things work & who they work for (or risk being taken out Lincoln. JFK, Kirk, etc) The best we can hope for are individuals making changes that will give us a different trajectory. I am not a trump sycophant (& Israel runs him like the majority of our politicians) but I think the Venezuela drug boat bombings are about destroying the control of elections in our country & around the world. RFK definitely has deep understanding of the powers that be so he is moving the needle the best way he can which is changing the populations mind about vaxes/drugs etc. (we may know but majority are in the dark & would line up for shots in the next “plandemic”) There is no way he could just come out & declare those changes - he would be kicked out of office (or worse) & the needle wouldn’t be moved because they control the narrative.
Went to France for a month. Ate fries, burgers, steaks, baguettes, whatever I wanted. I gained NO weight. At all. I’d never eat that back here in USA. I’d gain about 15 pounds in a month and feel sick. Undeniable difference in food.
Exactly. I know nicotine fights venoms. I wonder if chewing low dose nicotine gum would help those with digestive issues? Higher doses could cause nausea.
I do Intermittent Fasting. It's just not that damn hard. Eat what you want in a particular window, although I modified it a bit...I eat whatever I want for breakfast, have a frugal lunch, and a very sparse dinner. Dinner might be fruit with lowfat cottage cheese, or raw goat milk and an apple.
Because I can eat whatever I want for breakfast, I don't feel at all deprived, and I don't have to dink with refeeding syndrome. I honestly don't know why this is so difficult for some people. Because you can't eat all day long and half the evening?
Not to split hairs, but the reason it's been easy for you is you're not actually "intermittent fasting." The point is not having food for a solid window of around 16 hours (or more) to have your body really start breaking down existing tissue. 3 meals a day is not that. Its the non-caloric intake break that matters. The reason why most skip breakfast (or more) on an IF plan is you'll note when you kick your metabolism off in the morning with food, it makes you hungrier throughout the day, and you get to count the fasting time from whenever you finished dinner and slept through added to waiting to 12, 2, 3pm to eat.
My IF led to drastic under eating and almost no carbs and basically turned into a starvation diet causing thyroid damage and thinning bones plus metabolism damage and insulin resistance. Now I eat 3 meals of carbs, protein and fats. I don’t get more hungry after breakfast, I have normal hunger signals which gives me NO cravings and energy all day. My weight gain has stopped. It has been 2 1/2 years to eat properly and heal. All this carb and meal restriction works for a good while but damage does occur eventually. Everything you eat raises blood sugar so that tells me unless you have diabetes or other issues, in a reasonably healthy person, ups and downs in blood sugars is normal.
Carb restriction, ugh. I love my carbs, need my carbs. Hard to do weight lifting without them. I just had a blood test, I'm doing okay. Going to stop with the IF come gardening season. I have about 10 pounds to go, and they're the hardest I hear.
BA, you were the one that mentioned how easy your version of IF is for you. I was just explaining the underlying science and benefits behind fasting in general because it doesn't seem like an area you are familiar with. When people fast, there are changes your body undergoes that is all driven by the no calories/food intake + time. That is why people choose different forms of fasting such as 1 day a week, 48 hours, or longer depending on what your goals are. Whenever you introduce calories during a fast, you are literally breaking the fast and the changes your body was undergoing at the molecular level reset. Have a great day, and good luck with those last 10 lbs.
I've read that as long as your protein is very low, you can eat and not break the fast. for instance, i'll have coffee with a bit of butter or veggie broth with maybe some pico di gallo in it for flavor.
I’ve been doing intermittent fasting for approximately 5 years, with exercise, and as much Nature and sunshine as I can get. I eat from 1200-2000-an 8 hour window. You change your window to what suits your schedule.
I’m not hungry at all. My body is used to eating once per day!
I do the same , eat a good breakfast , eat a salad at lunchtime eat a small meal at night or a soup or maybe a piece of fruit, we are not designed to eat 3 large meals a day as some people believe.
I eat 4 smallish meals to get enough nutrition and calories. Basically starving myself for years on keto and IF caused terrible damage to metabolism and thyroid. Thinned my bones. Insulin resistance. The food is high satiety on these keto and carnivore plans so that it turns into a low calorie diet. Thats all it is then. Fat is not magic. You need carbs for optimal health. Good ones like fruit and potatoes, if tolerated.
It's not easy, you hear of communities in the US where the only food shops for miles around are fast food take aways. You sound heathy, my Mum has lost lots of weight on the fasting diet.
I still think you could manage with fast food takeaways. Not the healthiest way to eat for certain, but if you ate it for breakfast, then just snacked for lunch and dinner (within a 6 hour window), it could be managed. The nutritional value would leave a great deal to be desired though.
And thank you for the compliment. I feel pretty healthy. Went to see a friend of mine I hadn't seen in a while, and she said it looks to her like some of my grey hair is receding back to dark brown. One thing that's a bit weird though, my legs are now in such good shape, that it feels sometimes like I'm using somebody else's legs. :D
In many cases, the lack of a grocery store is because of the neighborhood. There is a slim margin in grocery stores and when they have to pay extra $$ for security to prevent theft, vandalism, robbery, etc. My husband worked with grocery stores in the greater NYC area for 30+ years. He can tell you stories of having “a guy” (paid for by the store) watch his vehicle while he met with the owner or manager. Also, “a guy” would escort him to his vehicle if he was picking up payment for product, etc., etc., etc. The stores can’t afford it.
I think it can be simply explained. We evolved to be be glutinous at times of plenty, we now live we such food choices, it makes it difficult to regulate your eating. Personally I've always lost weight when I eat less. I am the correct BMI now, but most of my life I was overweight/obese. I needed a hip replacement at 47, I speak with a wealth of personal experience in how difficult it is to lose weight...
I agree. I lose weight if I eat less, its that simple. Ive never seen a fat anorexic...or an old photo of famine where everyone is skin and bones except for the one fat guy in the corner with a thyroid problem lol. People have been using these types of excuses forever.
"They commonly cause gastrointestinal intolerance and can trigger gallbladder disease, dehydration‑related kidney injury, diabetic eye complications, possible depression/anxiety, and significant nutrient/muscle loss from chronic appetite suppression. Rare but serious issues include pancreatitis, bowel obstruction, and a theoretical thyroid‑tumor risk" details at:
What a lovely and astute comment! I agree with you! I only use functional and clinical nutrition with my patients, always keeping their greater good in mind. I meant to say that this document would hopefully give my patients greater insight into why I don't support their plans to use Ozempic. Time for deep explanations in clinical practice can be limited. As Robert mentioned, getting to root cause is so important!
I really don't understand how anybody could be desperate enough to lose weight via a questionable drug with a side effect of blindness. No way would I agree to go on a drug that has a side effect to permanent blindness, not to mention the rest of it. And in which parallel universe is stomach paralysis a good thing?!?
Ignorance is bliss. Many, if not most, don’t know about or pay attention to the side effects. Let’s face it, most doctors poo poo side effects too - “oh, that is VERY rare.” Well, it COULD happen, right? 🙄 Also, the “it won’t happen to me” thing . . .
Totally agree. If theres even one single side effect to a drug, no matter how big or small....that equals unsafe to me. Even if its just a headache....I would have to know why the drug would cause the head to hurt!!! I cant believe they can make claims like "safe and effective" for a drug that has several pages of side effects.
Study nutrition and educate your patients about proper food intake , that is more responsible, doctors are supposed to heal , "first DO NO HARM", that is the oath you pledged , Dont Forget that.
Correlation alert: the whole world prohibits, putting the ingredients in their food that we have in our food here in the United States. That’s part of your metabolic disruption. And we drink out of plastic constantly and we use Teflon and toxic industrial chemicals. That’s also an issue. Not everybody who is fat is lazy.
On top of all the other reasons you go into, I do believe that Americans have become systematically lazy over the last 40 years. Just look at the universal usage of cell phones, the computer games other screen time addictions going on. Walk in a park and see whole families walking with cell phones in their faces. See a couple on a date at a restaurant not talking but playing with their cell phones......... None of this encourages physical activity, but quite the opposite. We have two competing new religions: The White Coats dispensing the sacraments - pills and drugs. And, those addicted to cell phones, using them practically 24/7.
33% wow who would have thought. they can’t help themselves it has to be part of each and every one of their ridiculous stories but unfortunately anyone still dumb enough to still take pharma poison at this point is simply reckless and unable to think properly I mostly blame the doctors and am confident they will be held to account the harm they have caused ignorance is not a valid defense but it's hard to have sympathy for anyone refusing to acknowledge that health care isn’t something you will find in a doctors office or hospital in this country you get for profit pill pushing and bad advice by default clearly a magic pill that makes a fat person skinny is going to come with consequences any adult that can’t figure this out is likely too lost to ever be found
Exactly. You can tell in these comments who is fat and who is not without even seeing any pictures. Claims that people cant help what they put in their mouth are insane. smdh Its shocking they trust any of the drugs after what we saw with Covid and the flu and the cholesterol lies and all the exaggerations of pandemics past and present. Absolutely insane to trust these same people/companies with their health IMO
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Bob:
The best way - in term sof safety - to lose weight is to supplement with Beta Hydroxy Butyrate. (10 to 15 grams a day)
This is the main ketone one makes during ketosis.
By supplementing BHB you are feeding your cells (not cancer cells) with energy (no calories) and by feeding
you cells your hunger is modulated... you lose your appetite without hurting your body because you body is saying
you just fed me with something I can use for energy so I am not hungry anymore.
K Paul Stoller, FACHM
Fides constantis, Dilectio absoluta, Vita aeterna
Hyperbaric & Integrative Medicine
StollerHBOT.com www.incurableme.org"
I shake my head at our stupidity, and the criminal negligence of the doctors who prescribe this poison. We eat crap, stare at screens and don't exercise, and have crummy sleep. Oh, boy! A new "miracle drug" that makes us lose the weight, and we don't have to lift a finger. And it's FREE! No thanks. I'm 71, and losing weight has become gradually more difficult for me. I had gained 25 lbs. over the past 2 years due to undiagnosed hypothyroidism. Synthroid and some supplements stabilized that for the moment, but then I was diagnosed with lung cancer. I immediately switched to a ketogenic diet and started taking BHB. I've dropped about 35 lbs. in 5 months. Never once did I consider Ozempic, nor would I. In my case it was a cancer problem, not a weight loss problem. The weight loss was a fringe benefit. My point here is that you only need to change your lifestyle and take an inexpensive (and safe) supplement to lose weight at any age. (Thanks to author Travis Christofferson and his book Ketones: The Fourth Fuel, for hipping me to BHB!)
I read the article and all the comments but I didn't see the natural supplement Berberine mentioned anywhere. It's sometimes referred to as "Natures Ozempic" because of it's similar benefits but without the terrible side effects. It's been shown to help with weight loss but through a different mechanism, it's equally effective as statins (cholesterol reducing drugs), it significantly reduces fasting blood glucose levels in people with a glucose fasting index of 100 or higher, and unlike Ozempic it actually supports the gut biome instead of destroying it. It's one of the many supplements I have on my shelf.
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“Akkermansia muciniphila [a probiotic] may serve as a natural therapeutic agent for metabolic disorders with mechanisms that complement those of GLP-1 drugs.”
This is the “bottom line” distillation of a 4-paragraph summary by Brave AI to the query, “Discuss the relationship between Akkermansia muciniphila and GLP-1 drugs.” The entire summary, including its several methods of action, is worth reading, but I will not hijack the comment section by reproducing its entirety.
What I take: Toniiq Akkermansia Probiotic — https://a.co/d/7oBl2r7
Yes, Dr. Mercola recently had an excellent article on this probiotic.
Berberine is helpful for cancer also.
I did it the hard way, IF, cardio/yoga/lifting, even though that nasty drug was available. I don't regret my choice one bit. I don't trust Big Pharm one tiny bit, haven't for decades. Convid was just the crap icing on that shit sandwich.
"stomach paralysis"??? Yeah, sure, sign me up for that, as I'm sure it's great! Mmm...nausea...yum yum!
The venom peptide used in GLP-1 drugs comes from the glia monster lizard…..it paralyses the nerves that induce peristalsis, slows down stomach emptying and over the long term damages these nerves beyond repair.
The added bonus of losing unwanted fat is losing wanted muscle, especially in the legs and face and we need to hold on to the muscle as we age or face the prospect of walkers and wheelchairs.. frailty is going to come knocking sooner if you choose to rob your body of nutrients and muscle …using manmade concoctions that have not passed the passage of time against the outcome of stupid interventions.
Thank you for all the information 😊
It’s not the GLP-1 that is causing these longer term issues it’s the venom peptides they add to slow the gastric emptying alongside temporary paralysis of the nerves to the stomach and may erode the nerve sheaths ..which then impede nerve function in the longer term.
GLP-1 is good, when it comes from our foods , bad when it’s manipulated via synthetic peptides combined with venom peptides.
You can increase GLP-1 naturally from certain foods ..without damaging the nerves in the digestive tract.
https://www.healthline.com/health/foods-that-increase-glp-1
If your pancreas is already running full time pumping insulin to start with… due to insulin resistance this increases fat storage.
Please try to read the book “Metabolical” by Dr Robert Lustig.
The conundrum is insulin output vs fat storage.
GLP-1 is made in the intestines NOT the stomach or circulation…glp-1 also lowers uptake of glucose..high glucose causes high insulin which then makes the liver store fat …if it’s high corn fructose then it stores the fat around itself.. which slows metabolic rate , so you end up storing more fat because you cannot burn off the sugars.
It also slow downward spiral..
Blood sugars can be controlled by keeping to an eating window…which in turn increases metabolic rate.. which in turn loses weight… even while you rest.
Thank you. Have been on a strict meat, veg, fruit, no seed oils, no dairy for about 5 months. Definitely not overweight, just desperate to get my retinal vasculitis under control. Quite likely mould, eyes triggered for the first time 2 weeks back after feeding 5 bales to cows. (First trigger ever) Doing detoxes, started detox baths, do sauna etc etc
Can I suggest you research astaxanthin which is probably going to help here due to its ability to clear up inflammation and feed the retina with lutein and zeaxanthin..
Grape seed extract helps heal vascular inflammation.
Lysine helps lower viral loadings
Olive leaf extract is by far the safest antiviral, antibiotic, antimicrobial.
The virus bacteria may have entered through the tear duct … dare I say this?
CLO2 or DMSO will figure out what is producing the excess ROS and correct it.. I can explain more if you need to understand its mechanism but Dr Yoho has already covered the basics of these two protocols .
I hope you make a full recovery
Retinal Vasculitis
Description: Retinal vasculitis (RV) is the inflammation of the blood vessels in the retina, which can lead to swelling, bleeding, vessel blockage, and a serious risk of permanent vision loss due to retinal ischemia and neovascularization.
Causes: RV can be idiopathic (no known cause) or associated with systemic autoimmune diseases such as Behçet's disease, sarcoidosis, multiple sclerosis, or systemic lupus erythematosus, or due to infectious causes.
Conventional Treatment: Treatment is determined by the underlying cause and severity. The mainstay of therapy for non-infectious RV typically involves:
Corticosteroids: Used to control acute inflammation.
Immunosuppressive agents: For long-term management and to spare the patient from chronic steroid side effects. These can include medications like methotrexate, azathioprine, or mycophenolate mofetil.
Biologic agents: Such as infliximab or adalimumab, used in severe or refractory cases.
Laser photocoagulation or anti-VEGF injections: Used to manage complications like abnormal new blood vessel growth (neovascularization).
Astaxanthin
Description: Astaxanthin is a natural carotenoid pigment found in marine life (like salmon and microalgae) with powerful antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties.
Ocular Research: Preclinical and some human studies suggest astaxanthin may offer benefits for general eye health by:
Neutralizing oxidative stress: It is a potent free-radical scavenger that protects retinal cells from damage.
Reducing inflammation: It inhibits pro-inflammatory molecules, which helps calm inflammation in retinal cells.
Improving blood flow: It has been shown to potentially increase blood flow velocity to the retina and ciliary body.
Neuroprotection: It may help protect retinal ganglion cells from apoptosis (cell death) in conditions like glaucoma or diabetic retinopathy.
Role in Vasculitis: Recent animal studies on systemic autoimmune vasculitis (ANCA-associated vasculitis) have indicated that astaxanthin may help ameliorate organ damage by reducing inflammation and oxidative stress markers. However, these are experimental findings and have not yet led to an approved treatment protocol for human retinal vasculitis.
Summary
Astaxanthin has promising properties for eye health and inflammation, but it is not a substitute for the high-potency, medically supervised treatments required for managing retinal vasculitis. Retinal vasculitis is a complex condition that requires immediate and expert medical attention to preserve vision. Anyone with symptoms of retinal vasculitis should consult an ophthalmologist or a medical professional for a proper diagnosis and treatment plan.
Are all GLP1 drugs bad? I’ve been trying to avoid the super strong, injectable autoimmune biologics. Currently on LDN but saw that they are suggesting trying a GLP one in a low dose to help the LDN out. Any input appreciated
Wow! Thank you for the research.
Question: What of those people who use it for diabetes?
Because of this specific illness, Is there less of a reaction to this drug - or a different reaction?
Is it a good help to control diabetes?
Is tolerated better?
you'd be a fool to use it for any reason
Precisely!!
The article says it paralyses the stomach, does that sound sensible, ? cut out the junk food eat fresh fruit vegetables and fish and get off the carbs and weight will gradually normalise.
Yes, I read that.
My question merely was that, given the physical metabolic illness of diabetes, is Ozempic interacting differently (and perhaps more favorably) with the body than with someone without diabetes. I am not a doctor, which is why I asked a question of the doctor. Yes, I see his reply.
Dh has Type II and is not overweight. His diet is superb. Ozempic has helped to keep his blood sugars well within range for five years now with no side effects.
good luck
Diabetes , like many other "diseases", can be reversed with the correct diet,this is not a quick fix, but it is safe , does not cause gastric paralysis , or blindness, and does not deplete the bank account, how many diabetics will avoid limb amputation, if they follow safe and sensible protocols.
Time for a reset. Instead of looking for a reason to "use" it consider thinking of this offering and countless others as the latest attempt to make people dependent of
health destroying drugs...
I know 2 men, one 84 and the other in his 40’s who use this poison. Neither can control their blood sugar. They are constantly dizzy. The one in his 40s have that rip off bariatric stomach surgery which medicare also covers.
Older people can be prone to falls , this could mean a broken hip , surgery for older unfit people poses risk from anaesthesia, after surgery getting mobile immediately in early recovery is crucial , to avoid muscle loss , and to get good blood oxygen levels , crucial to have the bed RAISED to help breathing , and to avoid any lung problems , which may incapacitate or worse , diabetics , need special care in hospital settings , particularly with sterile wound management as healing in these people may be slower , GOOD nourishing food and fresh water is Essential , so keep an eye out for your older friends if they are in hospital.
Eat a healthy diet, nothing is achieved without effort, diabetes can be reversed , it will take time and effort , there is NO quick fix, it paralyses the stomach , isn't that enough warning?
Well, when I first heard the audio and saw that it was Tucker Carlson interviewed Callie Means, I just stopped listening immediately. Callie Means and his sister have a very bad record of being grifters on false medical milieu.
I will go back and try to read the text for your commentary.
I read quite a bit about Ozembic and I remember one article I read is that it can cause blindness.
I also heard that one of the GLP 1 type drugs costs about $2500 for a pen and a shot in your rib cage area.
Who can afford that.. I deduced that these drugs do not act like amphetamines but their side effects are of a different kind.
If a conversation ensues on this, I may look up some of my files and chime in.
God bless you and all.
Thanks, but document your assertions about Means here. It sounds like he has found salvation by now. If what you say proves to be true, I will pin it to the top of the comments.
Means is correct about ozempic just like he was correct about the ludicrousness of hep B shots for babies. I watched his original interview w/Tucker about a year before the one you mentioned. He presented himself as a a whistleblower - he was a knowledgeable industry insider calling out big food & corrupt deals (like one made w/NAACP to keep coke/pop on food stamp availability). I fell for his shtick hook line & sinker. When you discover his real background you see there is no window of his life where he could’ve become such an experienced insider. A huge red flag was when he refused to say that the COVID shots should be removed & further studied (this was repeatedly asked over a 90 min interview on Danny Jones podcast w/Dr Mary Bowen & Jack Kruse). His responses appeal to emotions & he never answers direct questions. His sister is even weirder - who quits in their final year of residency because you’re suddenly disillusioned by the medical industry? You would still get the MD after your name & your views would carry all that much more authority. Instead she’s hyping/selling wearables for your “health”. I guess the EMF’s are ok as long as we go to a local farmers market for your food. Get back to the earth & live like your ancestors but make sure you’re tracking via a device that tells you you’re healthy - WTF. These psyops are so sophisticated - give the masses some truths so they trust you & then sneak in data tracking devices. Wait until you read about their dad - we live in a world with really evil people trying to control us & the Means siblings appear trained for their roles.
all may be true but this is the most articulate and referenced and persuasive takedown of that poison shot I've seen
What is said is true. Who cares who Means used to be. Right now he is telling the truth....that is all that matters. The truth is undeniable. Obvious. Horrendous.
I think Ursomoney just posted a link to Debbie Lerman YouTube channel that covers the negative.
I am not saying that what Callie Means said about Ozempic is factually incorrect. But he and his sister have some kind of other dishonest political game on the public going on.
Here is one link .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqidDO6T5x0
How $21 TRILLION Went Missing From U.S. Tax Payers! -Catherine Austin Fitts FULL INTERVIEW
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situations all I can say is they're in a box it's clear to me from what Trump has
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done and what Bobby has done and what a series of players has done is the word
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is we will implement mRNA technology no matter
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what and what I will tell you is I believe that's going to kill a huge number of children
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oh if if not grown adults so now you you talked about this the surgeon general
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switcheroo right so Trump just appointed uh Kaylee Means Dr casey Means
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to be our next now we know her because she wrote this best-selling book Good
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Energy with her brother Cali Means callie's been on this show and they they tell you that they tell you a lot of
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truths about how corrupt and backwards our health care system is they talk about seed oils they talk about how they
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don't talk about real nutrition and medical well here I'll give you here's I'll give you 60 seconds of something she said you would think that the
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American health care system and our government agencies would be clamoring to fix metabolic health and reduce
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American suffering and costs but they're not they are deafeningly silent about
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metabolic dysfunction and its known causes it's not an overstatement to
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say that I learned virtually nothing at Stamford Medical School about the tens
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of thousands of scientific papers that elucidate these root causes of why American health is plummeting and how
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environmental factors are causing it for instance in medical school I did not learn that for each additional serving
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of ultrarocessed food we eat early mortality increases by 18% this now
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makes up 67% of the foods our kids are eating i took zero nutrition courses in
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medical school i didn't learned that 82% of independently funded studies show
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harm from processed food while 93% of industry sponsored studies reflect no
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harm in medical school I didn't learn that 95% of the people who created the recent USDA food guidelines for America
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had significant conflicts of interest with the food industry i did not learn that 1 billion pounds of synthetic
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pesticides are being sprayed on our food every single year 99% of the farmland in the United States
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is sprayed with synthetic pesticides many from China and Germany and these invisible tasteless chemicals
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so everybody So it's real easy to get excited about her becoming surgeon general but then you hear even someone
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like Nicole Shanahan who was Bobby Kennedy's running mate she says this it's very strange doesn't make any sense
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i was promised that if I supported RFK and his Senate confirmation that neither of these siblings would be working under
1:10:40 SNIP
https://substack.com/@debbielerman/note/p-154905660?r=d6rzy&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
https://substack.com/@debbielerman/note/p-155163542?r=d6rzy&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
I heard a Danny Jones video with Jack Cruise and Calli Means. Jack had a come to Jesus talk with him. It was really good.
GLP1s are an absolute gift from pharma to pharma. If these people don’t die from their use they are guaranteed to be a life long medical patient that will purchase more pharma products. The key to our health is in our gut biome - what could go wrong by paralyzing that organ?
You are exactly right about the Means’ siblings - total grifters, & psyop created by their father?? Everybody read this:
https://substack.com/@debbielerman/note/p-154905660?r=d6rzy&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
https://substack.com/@debbielerman/note/p-155163542?r=d6rzy&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Thank you, URsomoney, for supplying the most informative and on-target links.
I sort have been on a completely different path in all of this COVID garbage. I want facts and evidence, and if there is such a thing as "science" anymore, I want science facts.
I shy away movements that have the word "freedom" in them.
I like true or false, right or wrong orientation.
One last thing. RFK Jr was just a tool for Trump to win a second term.
Many people, including myself, are disappointed in how RFK Jr has completely switched us away from all the subjects that at first were being nicely reported on by Children's Health Defense. Now CHD has completely changed its "mission statement." Here it is.
" Children’s Health Defense® is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Our mission is ending childhood health epidemics by eliminating toxic exposure. We will restore and protect the health of children by eliminating environmental exposures, holding responsible parties accountable, and establishing safeguards to prevent future harm of children's health.
Protecting Children. Exposing Harms. Seeking Justice.
I think your cynicism is too deep and you underestimate the forces of evil opposing, but what do I know?
I am so deep in the weeds w/how this country & every other country is run that I’m just looking for people who are honest & trying to do some good. There is not a single person that gets “elected” to any position of importance without inside knowledge of how things work & who they work for (or risk being taken out Lincoln. JFK, Kirk, etc) The best we can hope for are individuals making changes that will give us a different trajectory. I am not a trump sycophant (& Israel runs him like the majority of our politicians) but I think the Venezuela drug boat bombings are about destroying the control of elections in our country & around the world. RFK definitely has deep understanding of the powers that be so he is moving the needle the best way he can which is changing the populations mind about vaxes/drugs etc. (we may know but majority are in the dark & would line up for shots in the next “plandemic”) There is no way he could just come out & declare those changes - he would be kicked out of office (or worse) & the needle wouldn’t be moved because they control the narrative.
Here is info on elections, Venezuela, drug cartels…
https://open.substack.com/pub/elizabethnickson/p/the-electorate-isnt-5050-the-real?r=d6rzy&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
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I have heard the same things so not sure if they can be trusted. We will have to watch closely.
SEED OILS- LOADS OF SYNTHETIC CALORIES THAT THE BODY DOESN'T RECOGNISE-SO IT THEN DEMANDS MORE... THEY EAT MORE SEED OIL JUNK, IT HAPPENS AGAIN...
THE CALORIES FLY IN, BUT ARE UNABLE TO CLOSE DOWN HUNGER PANGS, AND THE HINGER PANGS DON'T REALISE THEYVE BEEN GIVEN MAN MADE, UNNATURAL CALORIES...
THAT'S WHY, YOU CAN EAT 900 CALORIES OF CHIPS OR DORITOS- DROWNED IN SEED OILS+ PESTICIDES, WHICH ALSO CONFUSE THE BODY...
AND SOON BE HUNGRY
IN THE 60 S, PEOPLE ATE LOADS OF FRENCH FRIES, CHIPS, BURGERS, FRIED CHOCKEN- YET OBESITY WAS EXTREMELY RARE...
BCAUSE MCDONALD'S+ THE REST, USED BEEF FAT TO COOK IN...
MAKE SEED OILS ILLEGAL..
MAHA.
Went to France for a month. Ate fries, burgers, steaks, baguettes, whatever I wanted. I gained NO weight. At all. I’d never eat that back here in USA. I’d gain about 15 pounds in a month and feel sick. Undeniable difference in food.
Thanks for reporting on this Dr. Yoho.
Many diabetics have no clue that EMF from dirty electricity in the home wiring also disrupts and spikes blood sugar: https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/emi
Murder by those with degrees...
With intense pain and suffering, and a depleted bank account.
A lot of people wouldn't be so keen to take Ozempic if they knew it was based on Gila Monster venom.
if this is true, it is the lizard people with the venom drug
Exactly. I know nicotine fights venoms. I wonder if chewing low dose nicotine gum would help those with digestive issues? Higher doses could cause nausea.
Thanks for posting. Ozempic looks an awful drug, only one things helps you lose weight, eating less. Difficult though I grant you...
learning what is food and what is not is useful
Further age appropriate exercise...
An excellent insightful reply, Thank you Truth Seeker.
I do Intermittent Fasting. It's just not that damn hard. Eat what you want in a particular window, although I modified it a bit...I eat whatever I want for breakfast, have a frugal lunch, and a very sparse dinner. Dinner might be fruit with lowfat cottage cheese, or raw goat milk and an apple.
Because I can eat whatever I want for breakfast, I don't feel at all deprived, and I don't have to dink with refeeding syndrome. I honestly don't know why this is so difficult for some people. Because you can't eat all day long and half the evening?
Not to split hairs, but the reason it's been easy for you is you're not actually "intermittent fasting." The point is not having food for a solid window of around 16 hours (or more) to have your body really start breaking down existing tissue. 3 meals a day is not that. Its the non-caloric intake break that matters. The reason why most skip breakfast (or more) on an IF plan is you'll note when you kick your metabolism off in the morning with food, it makes you hungrier throughout the day, and you get to count the fasting time from whenever you finished dinner and slept through added to waiting to 12, 2, 3pm to eat.
My IF led to drastic under eating and almost no carbs and basically turned into a starvation diet causing thyroid damage and thinning bones plus metabolism damage and insulin resistance. Now I eat 3 meals of carbs, protein and fats. I don’t get more hungry after breakfast, I have normal hunger signals which gives me NO cravings and energy all day. My weight gain has stopped. It has been 2 1/2 years to eat properly and heal. All this carb and meal restriction works for a good while but damage does occur eventually. Everything you eat raises blood sugar so that tells me unless you have diabetes or other issues, in a reasonably healthy person, ups and downs in blood sugars is normal.
Carb restriction, ugh. I love my carbs, need my carbs. Hard to do weight lifting without them. I just had a blood test, I'm doing okay. Going to stop with the IF come gardening season. I have about 10 pounds to go, and they're the hardest I hear.
1 - I didn't name it
2- I don't get that hungry during the day
3 - You don't even know me, how would you have any idea what is easy for me and what isn't?
BA, you were the one that mentioned how easy your version of IF is for you. I was just explaining the underlying science and benefits behind fasting in general because it doesn't seem like an area you are familiar with. When people fast, there are changes your body undergoes that is all driven by the no calories/food intake + time. That is why people choose different forms of fasting such as 1 day a week, 48 hours, or longer depending on what your goals are. Whenever you introduce calories during a fast, you are literally breaking the fast and the changes your body was undergoing at the molecular level reset. Have a great day, and good luck with those last 10 lbs.
I've read that as long as your protein is very low, you can eat and not break the fast. for instance, i'll have coffee with a bit of butter or veggie broth with maybe some pico di gallo in it for flavor.
I’ve been doing intermittent fasting for approximately 5 years, with exercise, and as much Nature and sunshine as I can get. I eat from 1200-2000-an 8 hour window. You change your window to what suits your schedule.
I’m not hungry at all. My body is used to eating once per day!
I do a 6 hour window. My metabolism ain't what it used to be.
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I do the same , eat a good breakfast , eat a salad at lunchtime eat a small meal at night or a soup or maybe a piece of fruit, we are not designed to eat 3 large meals a day as some people believe.
I'm believing this is true. Just when did Western Civ decide that 3 big meals a day was a good thing?
I eat 4 smallish meals to get enough nutrition and calories. Basically starving myself for years on keto and IF caused terrible damage to metabolism and thyroid. Thinned my bones. Insulin resistance. The food is high satiety on these keto and carnivore plans so that it turns into a low calorie diet. Thats all it is then. Fat is not magic. You need carbs for optimal health. Good ones like fruit and potatoes, if tolerated.
read Hormone Secrets for treatments for osteoporosis
It's not easy, you hear of communities in the US where the only food shops for miles around are fast food take aways. You sound heathy, my Mum has lost lots of weight on the fasting diet.
I still think you could manage with fast food takeaways. Not the healthiest way to eat for certain, but if you ate it for breakfast, then just snacked for lunch and dinner (within a 6 hour window), it could be managed. The nutritional value would leave a great deal to be desired though.
And thank you for the compliment. I feel pretty healthy. Went to see a friend of mine I hadn't seen in a while, and she said it looks to her like some of my grey hair is receding back to dark brown. One thing that's a bit weird though, my legs are now in such good shape, that it feels sometimes like I'm using somebody else's legs. :D
In many cases, the lack of a grocery store is because of the neighborhood. There is a slim margin in grocery stores and when they have to pay extra $$ for security to prevent theft, vandalism, robbery, etc. My husband worked with grocery stores in the greater NYC area for 30+ years. He can tell you stories of having “a guy” (paid for by the store) watch his vehicle while he met with the owner or manager. Also, “a guy” would escort him to his vehicle if he was picking up payment for product, etc., etc., etc. The stores can’t afford it.
Wow, different world than rural Devon in the UK!
It is not that simple. We don’t understand weight gan and loss. Enzymes & hormones change the calories in / calories out theory.
I think it can be simply explained. We evolved to be be glutinous at times of plenty, we now live we such food choices, it makes it difficult to regulate your eating. Personally I've always lost weight when I eat less. I am the correct BMI now, but most of my life I was overweight/obese. I needed a hip replacement at 47, I speak with a wealth of personal experience in how difficult it is to lose weight...
I agree. I lose weight if I eat less, its that simple. Ive never seen a fat anorexic...or an old photo of famine where everyone is skin and bones except for the one fat guy in the corner with a thyroid problem lol. People have been using these types of excuses forever.
"They commonly cause gastrointestinal intolerance and can trigger gallbladder disease, dehydration‑related kidney injury, diabetic eye complications, possible depression/anxiety, and significant nutrient/muscle loss from chronic appetite suppression. Rare but serious issues include pancreatitis, bowel obstruction, and a theoretical thyroid‑tumor risk" details at:
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/please-summarize-the-health-pr-r9TQot.OTni6ECHgqW9zIg#0
Once again, thank you for illuminating a critical issue. I'm going to save this for patients to read before going on the drug.
What a lovely and astute comment! I agree with you! I only use functional and clinical nutrition with my patients, always keeping their greater good in mind. I meant to say that this document would hopefully give my patients greater insight into why I don't support their plans to use Ozempic. Time for deep explanations in clinical practice can be limited. As Robert mentioned, getting to root cause is so important!
I really don't understand how anybody could be desperate enough to lose weight via a questionable drug with a side effect of blindness. No way would I agree to go on a drug that has a side effect to permanent blindness, not to mention the rest of it. And in which parallel universe is stomach paralysis a good thing?!?
exactly
Ignorance is bliss. Many, if not most, don’t know about or pay attention to the side effects. Let’s face it, most doctors poo poo side effects too - “oh, that is VERY rare.” Well, it COULD happen, right? 🙄 Also, the “it won’t happen to me” thing . . .
Totally agree. If theres even one single side effect to a drug, no matter how big or small....that equals unsafe to me. Even if its just a headache....I would have to know why the drug would cause the head to hurt!!! I cant believe they can make claims like "safe and effective" for a drug that has several pages of side effects.
Study nutrition and educate your patients about proper food intake , that is more responsible, doctors are supposed to heal , "first DO NO HARM", that is the oath you pledged , Dont Forget that.
Correlation alert: the whole world prohibits, putting the ingredients in their food that we have in our food here in the United States. That’s part of your metabolic disruption. And we drink out of plastic constantly and we use Teflon and toxic industrial chemicals. That’s also an issue. Not everybody who is fat is lazy.
On top of all the other reasons you go into, I do believe that Americans have become systematically lazy over the last 40 years. Just look at the universal usage of cell phones, the computer games other screen time addictions going on. Walk in a park and see whole families walking with cell phones in their faces. See a couple on a date at a restaurant not talking but playing with their cell phones......... None of this encourages physical activity, but quite the opposite. We have two competing new religions: The White Coats dispensing the sacraments - pills and drugs. And, those addicted to cell phones, using them practically 24/7.
it is not moral decay; it has been done to us
33% wow who would have thought. they can’t help themselves it has to be part of each and every one of their ridiculous stories but unfortunately anyone still dumb enough to still take pharma poison at this point is simply reckless and unable to think properly I mostly blame the doctors and am confident they will be held to account the harm they have caused ignorance is not a valid defense but it's hard to have sympathy for anyone refusing to acknowledge that health care isn’t something you will find in a doctors office or hospital in this country you get for profit pill pushing and bad advice by default clearly a magic pill that makes a fat person skinny is going to come with consequences any adult that can’t figure this out is likely too lost to ever be found
Exactly. You can tell in these comments who is fat and who is not without even seeing any pictures. Claims that people cant help what they put in their mouth are insane. smdh Its shocking they trust any of the drugs after what we saw with Covid and the flu and the cholesterol lies and all the exaggerations of pandemics past and present. Absolutely insane to trust these same people/companies with their health IMO