I’m an RF engineer. I’ve been designing military and cellular systems for over 45 years, and I work as a consultant and expert witness on electromagnetic radiation issues. One thing people routinely miss is that exposure depends overwhelmingly on distance, power, and duty cycle. The inverse square law alone explains why proximity to a radiating source matters far more than ambient exposure, and why most consumer-level RF sources are vastly overstated in terms of biological risk.
That said, I completely agree that her issues were far more likely driven by birth control and SSRIs than by any ordinary RF exposure. Those drugs directly interfere with neurotransmitters, hormones, and nervous-system regulation. From a systems standpoint, pharmacologic disruption of signaling pathways is simply not comparable to low-power environmental RF.
If anything on the environmental side deserves more scrutiny, it’s modern LED lighting. The high-frequency switching, blue-weighted spectrum, and circadian disruption are much more neurologically relevant than a Wi-Fi router across the room. That mechanism is far more biologically plausible and consistent with what we see clinically.
I do think red and near-infrared light exposure is beneficial, and I use red light in the morning and evening during exercise, along with regular sunlight. Supporting circadian rhythm and mitochondrial function matters, and those are simple, low-risk interventions with real upside.
I’m also curious whether you’ve read any of Pierre Kory’s work, particularly his interest in metabolic health and structured water. He developed a product called AURMINA, which I use to treat the Ozarka water I drink. I view it as potentially supportive — not a cure-all — but mechanistically interesting and reasonable within a broader health strategy.
Overall, I think it’s important to rank contributors properly instead of lumping everything into a vague “toxic exposure” category. Not all inputs carry the same weight. Good engineering — and good medicine — requires understanding magnitude, mechanism, and probability, not fear-driven equivalence.
Hi Jerry, I am an engineer, and I agree with your assessment of the relative impacts. My focus is on switching out the lights. For 10 years, I've been trying to use high-CRI and high-R9 LEDs, but I'm going back to halogens and incandescent bulbs.
I just received the first shipment of Aurmina for testing. My father has been selling structured water products for over 2 decades, and what has frustrated me most is the inability to measure them, let alone the effects.
I am seriously considering buying (a likely expensive) spectrometer so I can test different types of water. Curious if you have any ideas on testing the different water.
I'm also curious about your thoughts on the impact of dirty electricity. When I spoke to some of the EMF reduction experts in CA about 3 years ago, they told me they didn't have any meters capable of measuring the electric or magnetic fields from dirty power on the line.
I have some Stetzer filters, because they're simple, but I wonder how much effect they have. It's notable that my local hydro company just upgraded their smart meters. I haven't had a chance to measure the duty cycle yet, but I plan to when it gets a bit warmer.
I'm also curious if you've had a chance to measure any 5G phones and whether the signal strength and duty cycle are better or worse than on older 4G phones? Everyone assumes it's worse, but I've seen no testing results.
Pierre Kory performed a UV spectral analysis around 270 nm to evaluate differences in water structure. Another established approach is a spin-relaxation test using NMR technology, though that method is expensive and generally inaccessible outside of research settings.
What we are really trying to observe are differences in physical properties—most plausibly viscosity—under identical temperature conditions. I haven’t tested this yet, but it raises an interesting question: would a simple rotational (spin) test in a beaker reveal a measurable difference between distilled water and structured water? For example, if both samples were spun at the same angular velocity and then allowed to settle, would the structured water take less time to return to a fully still state due to increased internal coherence or viscosity? Chia seeds also structure water
One possible low-cost experiment would be to use a small battery-powered whisk or stirrer to impart the same rotational energy to each sample, then time how long it takes for visible motion to dissipate. A shorter settling time could suggest higher effective viscosity or altered hydrogen-bond dynamics in the structured water.
For those interested in the foundational work behind this, Pierre Kory has written extensively on the topic on his Substack and has a book detailing these findings. He is highly credentialed, and his work is worth reviewing directly.
Separately, regarding RF exposure: from a radiation-calculation standpoint, there is no inherent difference between 4G and 5G in terms of basic power-density math. Where 5G can be more concerning is in the antenna boresight, since higher antenna gain can result in higher localized exposure. However, this would require the beam to be continuously directed at a fixed location.
In practice, 5G operates using phased-array beamforming, dynamically steering narrow beams toward active users. By contrast, 4G systems rely on fixed antenna patterns with wider horizontal beamwidths, producing more constant, area-wide radiation regardless of where users are located. Over time, this can mean broader and more continuous exposure with 4G, depending on user distribution.
There are established methods for calculating time-averaged and spatially averaged RF exposure that satisfy FCC due-diligence requirements, and when properly applied, these frameworks account for both technologies.
Wow, quite the technical detail in your posts. Thanks.
I'm a retired mech. engineer, so just a comment on your semi-question about what appears to me to be viscosity of water v structured water.
I have run many viscosity based experiments at the company I worked for for 39 years-- 3M. I can say this:
-- viscosity is uniquely and extremely hard to characterize with physical equipment. All the fluid cells used to assess it are in huge macro size in relation to the molecular level stress fields in something as "thin" as water.
-- the infinitesimal field elicited by structured water, what little I have read, near volume boundaries is just too small to be sensed in many ways and the field changes continuously(exponentially I believe) outward from the wall of a vessel-- correct?
On the other hand it has been over 20 years since I had anything to do with this technology; possibly the professor out west who "invented" Structured 4th phase water . . . was forced to come up with a method to better evaluate this technology . . .
Thanks again for your insight, as much as I am able to grasp anyhow!
Thank you Dr. Yoho for this opportunity to share our story. I hope that it helps many others on the path to recovery. And yes - your emails definitely went into a no-man's land...only once I used the "search" function of gmail did they come up.
I am one of those people who struggles with regular pill taking. So when the put me on the pill way back when, I had a hard time following the protocol, and soon quit taking it. I had no idea then how lucky I was.
Meeeee too. I was on the pill for years. My poor husband had to deal with all my ups and downs and I was convinced that he was just a jerk. Makes me so sad. He is gone now and I wish I could have done things differently. :-(
Human sperm could be considered to be the smallest element of human biology. Even by 2010, fertility clinics were asking young male clients with fertility problems if they carried a cellphone, and if so, where? Clinics had already noticed that lower sperm counts, malformed sperm and poor motility were connected to cellphone proximity.
We have all heard about the decline of human fertility. How much of it is due to incessant and ever increasing EMF exposure disrupting the delicate internal bio-electric signaling of most if not all of our bodily systems?
As it seems to me, you might have pi**ed them off by downplaying their emf story and highlighted what they clearly seem to regard as less important: magnetic fields, and not least, medical harm.
Thanks for interviewing these folks Dr Yoho. I think everything you and the Shapovals said is technically correct. I think what you say about medical malfeasance being the worst by far is also correct.
I would slightly alter your final conclusion. One of the most difficult things to quantify right now is the biological effects of all the different electric and magnetic fields. As a result, I think we should be careful in minimizing what appear to be more nuanced effects of EMF, especially on people who have other problems or stressors. One observation I have is that people who appear to be EMF sensitive also have other health problems.
We don't know if Ms Shapoval was or is incrementally affected by the EMFs, even if the main symptoms were caused by the medications. I think it's entirely possible that her own inherent resistance to the fields could be significantly weakened by the other health problems.
Personally, I don't eliminate all the fields, but I do take quite a few steps to reduce them, per your comments and some of the products noted by the Shapovals.
The only possible "offense" I can think of, Dr. Yolo, is that Roman and Bohdanna may need to draw their own crowd rather than increase their stream through you - or maybe it's something else entirely embedded in your philosophy which may be objectionable. Everyone "co-opts" information about EMF these days - with only a few pioneers - Dr. Becker being one. Non-native EMF information and it's detriment to health seems very "au courant" these days.
Dr.Jack Kruse mentors many, many people. People seem to have unusual reasons for engaging in non-radio contact; so move on! Maybe soon you will hear from them. Thank you for posting.
I can’t believe this poor woman went through 2 1/2 years of withdrawal getting off of those medications…. I was on SSRI’s for 18 years and I was able to quit them over the course of one week using Sam-e and TMG morning and night. It was maximum doses on each and I think all I had was Sam-e to begin with, but it worked. It was wonderful. Maybe it will help someone else who is going through this 🙏🙏
800 mg Sam-e morning and night. It’s a total mood changer! If that’s not enough or need something cheaper, start with 1000 mg of the TMG and work up to 3,000 as needed. Can take up to 3g morning and night.
Well doc, it has been a couple years since reading your work. As always impressed at your detail, thoroughness, and authentic words-- specially, in the end, pointing out how Roman's wife's extreme problems had little to do(likely) with EMF's and could mostly be explained by the meds. I don't deny the concerns of EMF's and take much of what Roman professes to heart. Applying it consistently; that's the problem.
The details of how both the hormone-killing birth control pills and the SSRI's have screwed up the world is . . . simply satanic.
I’m an RF engineer. I’ve been designing military and cellular systems for over 45 years, and I work as a consultant and expert witness on electromagnetic radiation issues. One thing people routinely miss is that exposure depends overwhelmingly on distance, power, and duty cycle. The inverse square law alone explains why proximity to a radiating source matters far more than ambient exposure, and why most consumer-level RF sources are vastly overstated in terms of biological risk.
That said, I completely agree that her issues were far more likely driven by birth control and SSRIs than by any ordinary RF exposure. Those drugs directly interfere with neurotransmitters, hormones, and nervous-system regulation. From a systems standpoint, pharmacologic disruption of signaling pathways is simply not comparable to low-power environmental RF.
If anything on the environmental side deserves more scrutiny, it’s modern LED lighting. The high-frequency switching, blue-weighted spectrum, and circadian disruption are much more neurologically relevant than a Wi-Fi router across the room. That mechanism is far more biologically plausible and consistent with what we see clinically.
I do think red and near-infrared light exposure is beneficial, and I use red light in the morning and evening during exercise, along with regular sunlight. Supporting circadian rhythm and mitochondrial function matters, and those are simple, low-risk interventions with real upside.
I’m also curious whether you’ve read any of Pierre Kory’s work, particularly his interest in metabolic health and structured water. He developed a product called AURMINA, which I use to treat the Ozarka water I drink. I view it as potentially supportive — not a cure-all — but mechanistically interesting and reasonable within a broader health strategy.
Overall, I think it’s important to rank contributors properly instead of lumping everything into a vague “toxic exposure” category. Not all inputs carry the same weight. Good engineering — and good medicine — requires understanding magnitude, mechanism, and probability, not fear-driven equivalence.
LOVE IT got your email we hopefully will be in touch
Hi Jerry, I am an engineer, and I agree with your assessment of the relative impacts. My focus is on switching out the lights. For 10 years, I've been trying to use high-CRI and high-R9 LEDs, but I'm going back to halogens and incandescent bulbs.
I just received the first shipment of Aurmina for testing. My father has been selling structured water products for over 2 decades, and what has frustrated me most is the inability to measure them, let alone the effects.
I am seriously considering buying (a likely expensive) spectrometer so I can test different types of water. Curious if you have any ideas on testing the different water.
I'm also curious about your thoughts on the impact of dirty electricity. When I spoke to some of the EMF reduction experts in CA about 3 years ago, they told me they didn't have any meters capable of measuring the electric or magnetic fields from dirty power on the line.
I have some Stetzer filters, because they're simple, but I wonder how much effect they have. It's notable that my local hydro company just upgraded their smart meters. I haven't had a chance to measure the duty cycle yet, but I plan to when it gets a bit warmer.
I'm also curious if you've had a chance to measure any 5G phones and whether the signal strength and duty cycle are better or worse than on older 4G phones? Everyone assumes it's worse, but I've seen no testing results.
Pierre Kory performed a UV spectral analysis around 270 nm to evaluate differences in water structure. Another established approach is a spin-relaxation test using NMR technology, though that method is expensive and generally inaccessible outside of research settings.
What we are really trying to observe are differences in physical properties—most plausibly viscosity—under identical temperature conditions. I haven’t tested this yet, but it raises an interesting question: would a simple rotational (spin) test in a beaker reveal a measurable difference between distilled water and structured water? For example, if both samples were spun at the same angular velocity and then allowed to settle, would the structured water take less time to return to a fully still state due to increased internal coherence or viscosity? Chia seeds also structure water
One possible low-cost experiment would be to use a small battery-powered whisk or stirrer to impart the same rotational energy to each sample, then time how long it takes for visible motion to dissipate. A shorter settling time could suggest higher effective viscosity or altered hydrogen-bond dynamics in the structured water.
For those interested in the foundational work behind this, Pierre Kory has written extensively on the topic on his Substack and has a book detailing these findings. He is highly credentialed, and his work is worth reviewing directly.
Separately, regarding RF exposure: from a radiation-calculation standpoint, there is no inherent difference between 4G and 5G in terms of basic power-density math. Where 5G can be more concerning is in the antenna boresight, since higher antenna gain can result in higher localized exposure. However, this would require the beam to be continuously directed at a fixed location.
In practice, 5G operates using phased-array beamforming, dynamically steering narrow beams toward active users. By contrast, 4G systems rely on fixed antenna patterns with wider horizontal beamwidths, producing more constant, area-wide radiation regardless of where users are located. Over time, this can mean broader and more continuous exposure with 4G, depending on user distribution.
There are established methods for calculating time-averaged and spatially averaged RF exposure that satisfy FCC due-diligence requirements, and when properly applied, these frameworks account for both technologies.
Wow, quite the technical detail in your posts. Thanks.
I'm a retired mech. engineer, so just a comment on your semi-question about what appears to me to be viscosity of water v structured water.
I have run many viscosity based experiments at the company I worked for for 39 years-- 3M. I can say this:
-- viscosity is uniquely and extremely hard to characterize with physical equipment. All the fluid cells used to assess it are in huge macro size in relation to the molecular level stress fields in something as "thin" as water.
-- the infinitesimal field elicited by structured water, what little I have read, near volume boundaries is just too small to be sensed in many ways and the field changes continuously(exponentially I believe) outward from the wall of a vessel-- correct?
On the other hand it has been over 20 years since I had anything to do with this technology; possibly the professor out west who "invented" Structured 4th phase water . . . was forced to come up with a method to better evaluate this technology . . .
Thanks again for your insight, as much as I am able to grasp anyhow!
Thank you Dr. Yoho for this opportunity to share our story. I hope that it helps many others on the path to recovery. And yes - your emails definitely went into a no-man's land...only once I used the "search" function of gmail did they come up.
No worries and thanks
Thank you for sharing. There is a ton of information to unpack from this article. So much of it is already striking familiar chords in my life.
I am one of those people who struggles with regular pill taking. So when the put me on the pill way back when, I had a hard time following the protocol, and soon quit taking it. I had no idea then how lucky I was.
Excellent post. Looking back ( I am now 69) I see how the Pill changed me.
My step daughter went through much of what Bohdanna went through.
Looking at the metaphysical viewpoint I have to wonder why we would sign up for so much pain...
its sick, isn't it
Meeeee too. I was on the pill for years. My poor husband had to deal with all my ups and downs and I was convinced that he was just a jerk. Makes me so sad. He is gone now and I wish I could have done things differently. :-(
Human sperm could be considered to be the smallest element of human biology. Even by 2010, fertility clinics were asking young male clients with fertility problems if they carried a cellphone, and if so, where? Clinics had already noticed that lower sperm counts, malformed sperm and poor motility were connected to cellphone proximity.
We have all heard about the decline of human fertility. How much of it is due to incessant and ever increasing EMF exposure disrupting the delicate internal bio-electric signaling of most if not all of our bodily systems?
US live birth rates dramatically rose this year
stability and hope
Thanks too for the climbing pics. Wow wow wow.
still seems like the most important thing to me ha
I'm left with the climbing gym now
YEAH, I was amazed too.
Dr. Yoho, please interview Cory with EMF Solutions. EMFSol.com
Harmonizing electromagnetic fields vs blocking.
As it seems to me, you might have pi**ed them off by downplaying their emf story and highlighted what they clearly seem to regard as less important: magnetic fields, and not least, medical harm.
Thanks for interviewing these folks Dr Yoho. I think everything you and the Shapovals said is technically correct. I think what you say about medical malfeasance being the worst by far is also correct.
I would slightly alter your final conclusion. One of the most difficult things to quantify right now is the biological effects of all the different electric and magnetic fields. As a result, I think we should be careful in minimizing what appear to be more nuanced effects of EMF, especially on people who have other problems or stressors. One observation I have is that people who appear to be EMF sensitive also have other health problems.
We don't know if Ms Shapoval was or is incrementally affected by the EMFs, even if the main symptoms were caused by the medications. I think it's entirely possible that her own inherent resistance to the fields could be significantly weakened by the other health problems.
Personally, I don't eliminate all the fields, but I do take quite a few steps to reduce them, per your comments and some of the products noted by the Shapovals.
Thank you all for sharing!
I think what you are saying is that variables interact and it is impossible to unconfound them in this area.
Agree.
excellent interview - and fun too. kudos to all 3 of you: Roman, Bohdanna and Dr Yoho!
The only possible "offense" I can think of, Dr. Yolo, is that Roman and Bohdanna may need to draw their own crowd rather than increase their stream through you - or maybe it's something else entirely embedded in your philosophy which may be objectionable. Everyone "co-opts" information about EMF these days - with only a few pioneers - Dr. Becker being one. Non-native EMF information and it's detriment to health seems very "au courant" these days.
Dr.Jack Kruse mentors many, many people. People seem to have unusual reasons for engaging in non-radio contact; so move on! Maybe soon you will hear from them. Thank you for posting.
See above - the emails were in Spam 🙂
I can’t believe this poor woman went through 2 1/2 years of withdrawal getting off of those medications…. I was on SSRI’s for 18 years and I was able to quit them over the course of one week using Sam-e and TMG morning and night. It was maximum doses on each and I think all I had was Sam-e to begin with, but it worked. It was wonderful. Maybe it will help someone else who is going through this 🙏🙏
Was far easier just to send a link - hope that helps! If you have any other questions, please don’t hesitate to ask! Best wishes always 💛
https://a.co/d/fkTEfLf
Please detail what Sam-e and TMG mean. . . not at all clear to someone with no knowledge in that area.
800 mg Sam-e morning and night. It’s a total mood changer! If that’s not enough or need something cheaper, start with 1000 mg of the TMG and work up to 3,000 as needed. Can take up to 3g morning and night.
https://a.co/d/c2sK80S
Well doc, it has been a couple years since reading your work. As always impressed at your detail, thoroughness, and authentic words-- specially, in the end, pointing out how Roman's wife's extreme problems had little to do(likely) with EMF's and could mostly be explained by the meds. I don't deny the concerns of EMF's and take much of what Roman professes to heart. Applying it consistently; that's the problem.
The details of how both the hormone-killing birth control pills and the SSRI's have screwed up the world is . . . simply satanic.
"Dr. Linda" linked me up this time.
Thanks again.
Your emails have not been arriving either into my gmail. I normally only read on a browser because I dislike the app. I’ve missed much!!!
not an easy thing to do congratulations