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SteveBC's avatar

Dr Yoho, some thoughts on shingles: If taking L-Arginine, stop. If not taking L-Lysine, start. Most important is "red marine algae" preparations (red alaskan dulse). Then selenium, N-Acetyl-Cysteine and L-Glutamine to generate Glutathione, and as much Vitamin C orally or via IV as you can get. There are a few other ideas, but those are minor. I suggest if you don't know about Dr Frederick Klenner's work on Vitamin C, you check him out, great work in the 1940s into 1960s, if I remember correctly. I hope this helps you, as you have helped me with your writings several times. :-)

SteveBC's avatar

I had mild cases of shingles that I stopped within 2-3 days every time using these substances and a few topicals. After a while, I realized that I was curing these bouts so quickly that my adaptive immune system did not have time to re-learn how to suppress the virus and keep it suppressed (I'm 74 and lost "young" adaptive immunity suppression around age 60 or so).

Once I figured that out, I remembered Klenner talking about how to "vaccinate" yourself against any virus. I don't know if the term is out there, but I call it "Klenner Vaccination."

The next time I got shingles, I let it run for a week before hitting it with the algae and so on, just using Vitamin C or a little of the algae if the pain got a little too intense, just to tamp things down slightly but not enough to cure it. Once I completed that low-level "Klenner vaccination" process that week, I have not had shingles since, or rather, I think I've had a couple minor pains but my immune system kicked in and eliminated the pain within 2 days without me doing anything, and since then, I have had no issues at all.

Klenner vaccination is a very powerful technique. Let the illness run, tamp down the excess peaks of trouble with a little bit of C or whatever, and the immune system will (re-)learn adaptive immunity that should be life-long.

Far better than using synthetic vaccines, because the illness does not run out of control but does run long enough for the immune system to react adaptively to the actual disease organism.

Klenner was a brilliant observer and never needed double-blind studies to learn the ropes.

Note that this does not apply to bioweapons like Covid or Lyme, which need to be shut down fast. In the case of Covid, the detritus of spikes and broken spikes will guarantee both damage and adaptive reactions, whether you shut it down fast or slow, so fast is best.

Klenner did not have to deal with bioweapons, alas for us.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Several people helped this post with informative comments.

MIchelle Herman wrote, “Hi! Wow… I can’t believe you didn’t immediately hit the shingles with a CD sprayer or bath! Seems like it would be fastest and most effective.”

Kerri Rivera, the queen of clinical chlorine dioxide, said the same thing and added that the dose was 100-200 activated drops in a bath.

My only excuse is that I was sick, so I did not start the baths until 2 weeks into it. I did try the sprayer, but it hurt.

Another reader suggested:

Metabolic Solutions Report

Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst Nova Scotia, Canada msibio@yahoo.com 902-584-3810

Fighting the herpes virus

If fighting shingles, cold sores, STDs, etc., do these things:

1. Colloidal Silver (CS): 8 ounces, 3xday, straight or mixed with other liquids. Or just drink CS only, but at

least 16 - 24 oz/day.

2. Add drops of food-grade hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) to the CS each time just before ingestion. Add 2

drops each ingestion the first day, three drops each time the second day and keep adding another drop per

ingestion each day until you reach 10 drops. You may need to dilute the CS in extra water to lessen the

H2O2 taste. Use as much as it takes. Most Health Food stores carry food-grade hydrogen peroxide.

3. Take 3,000 mg of lysine with each meal the first day, 4,000 mg the next day, and 5,000 mg

with each meal from then on. If you can find bulk lysine powder, stir 1/2 teaspoon of the powder into any

liquid along with each meal on the first day and then one teaspoon per meal thereafter. If you can only find

capsules, make sure it is lysine only, NOT lysine mixed with other ingredients.

4. Until the shingles/cold sores are fully gone, avoid all nuts, beans, grains, and seeds. The herpes virus

absolutely LOVES chocolate and peanuts above everything else in the world. Stick with fruits, veggies,

dairy, eggs, and meats (organic if possible).

You may find that the herpes virus will stay away if you minimize those foods (nuts, etc.) and take smaller

amounts of CS and/or lysine each day.

For a bit of explanation, the herpes virus thrives on the amino acid arginine (the richest sources are nuts, beans,

grains, and seeds, in that order). However, the herpes virus cannot coexist well with the amino acid lysine.

Colloidal Silver, which kills all viruses/most bacteria, is lethal to the herpes virus.

The herpes virus is anaerobic, meaning it doesn't like oxygen. Oxygen kills it. Hence the effectiveness of

hydrogen peroxide (H2O2).

5. Stay calm. Pray. Meditate. Sing. Rest. Stress aggravates the herpes virus.

Thanks to everyone, and please always put this sort of help in the comments so everyone can benefit!

yantra's avatar

good synopsis in general - i would also add lemon balm (Melissa officinalis) as tea, caps or even apply as cream. It grows easily in temperate climates, like a weed.

I am a bit surprised at the recommendation for 16 to 24 oz/day of straight colloidal silver (!) sounds like quite an overdose to me, and might even cause ones skin to turn grey . . .

erin's avatar

I got shingles pretty bad in 07. Been dealing with post-herpetic neuraligia ever since. I have tried a lot of things including electroacupuncture, and several herbs. The only thing that has worked was DMSO. Good stuff.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

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Sherri's avatar

Thank you, I've always loved the psych area of what I used to do. And I'm not familiar with the Metta psych aspect. Glad to know Hillsdale which is my old stomping grounds and away was allowing people like Wolf, and issues that were really a part of humanity these days to be talked about. Thanks for the diverse amount of subject matter that you cover❤️

Concerned in Midwest's avatar

i would say that the lack of intimacy at home almost always is the catalyst...men you are supposed to suffer.

Millard J Melnyk's avatar

Can you say specifically, from scientific studies, if there is much of a difference in what that difference is between dopamine dosing via online green access versus reading a novel?

mejbcart's avatar

Hi Robert,

can you please do a test on yourself according to this video:

https://www.brighteon.com/8fa450c5-2250-4203-9d29-f75a7526513e

just check out the second part of it. It is about an increasing MAGNETISM in human bodies... It's shocking, in my opinion, given the increasing health issues all over.

yantra's avatar

Knowing how bad shingles feels, your photo does not look like "an insignificant-looking rash" to me. Ouch. It is possible that the upsurge in shingles is not solely due to the varicella/chickenpox vax (which i also never had). When i got shingles i was under 60 but heavily exposed to close-range wireless radiation at the time (cellphone, wifi and in an office with multiple sources). i also kept getting "flu-ish" symptoms, but somehow knew even then it was not the "flu".

The strength of these alien wireless signals can overwhelm or interfere with the delicate electrical signaling which regulates and orchestrates our immune system along with other bodily systems. Once i quit my use of a cellphone and severely limited my time around any wireless gear, my immune system rebounded dramatically, along with overall health and well-being. People who had met me when i was heavily exposed remarked on how "radiant" i looked when they saw me later. Yeah, i thought, because i'm not being constantly irradiated.

John Daniel's avatar

I enjoyed your perspective. Thank you

Flatulus Maximus's avatar

My MD has been persistent in recommending Shingrix and pneumonia vaccines. I'm 70 & have emphysema, and respiratory infections of any kind scare the heck out of me. I finally accepted the pneumonia vaccine, but am not enthusiastic about Shingrix. That said, hearing about the experiences of those with shingles tends to lessen my resolve. I'm doing everything I can to maintain a strong immune system. Should I worry?

Dr Linda's avatar

The sculpture is remarkable

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

looks like something from the Vatican

Dr Linda's avatar

I am stunned that sexual addiction is not recognized in the DSM-5. My former spouse has a sexual addiction; it facilitated the end of our marriage. He also gave me an STD.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

DSM is a billing manual designed to sell drugs, not a medical reference

Dr Linda's avatar

I get it. I’m not sure why it surprises me. : (

Gigi's avatar

Robert, I'm a huge fan and look forward to your weekly posts. Your books confirmed what I thought and have given me backing to discuss sensitive topics with my loved ones. Like you, I am a 70 year old "life-long-learner" and experiment with DMSO, CD, and supplements. I need to get back into shape. - after 2 minor falls have gotten me off track. You have inspired me with your exercise regimen. I really appreciate your candor and for sharing your experiences with all of us. All the best to you and Judy!

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Starting Strength by Rippletoe is the best weightlifting reference. Start low and go slow!

Gigi's avatar

Thanks so much!!

FloxedAndFurious's avatar

I had an intractable case of pityriasis rosea all over my back for years. Nothing, and I mean, nothing got rid of it. Then I found one of those Internet "cure" ads, typical pdf for cheap. I bought it. Treatment was repeated sessions of brushing with a borax solution. It was gone after several applications. Never came back. Borax would be another interesting topic, don't recall you covering it.

mejbcart's avatar

since in general that addiction problem starts with access to digital technology which is spreading the 'resource materials', while using the operating system of those devices, one would need to ask: WHO is having the control and monitoring over that personal access, leading to an addiction...??? How about IBF, read backwards please... And WHO is that, who hates humans so much, that making them satisfied while being utterly humiliated for few hours (!! think Viagra..), is not enough? Destroy people's, CHILDREN's entire life! This crime seems to be equivalent with genetic modifications of humans without their consent. Just my opinion.

Brett Wilcox's avatar

Thanks for your ongoing labor of love. Your disdain for psychiatry resonates. Interesting interview. I started out as a counselor with two years working with adolescent sex offenders. Glad that's done!

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

this dude that I interviewed is OK

Explorer's avatar

I had severe shingles in 2021, much like yours, keeping me awake all night for 3-4 weeks. It didn't end but turned into post-herpes neuralgia, giving me pain for at least two months.

I got desperate and asked my surgery to prescribe painkillers. Luck had its funny way. The doctor forgot to send me the prescription, so I made an online search for a self-help solution. And I found this one: Essential oil from laurel leaves (the ones I use in cooking) was said to alleviate nerve (neural?) pain. I mixed several drops in a little egg cup with carrier oil (coco or argan, can't remember exactly which one) and applied on my skin repeatedly for a couple of days. But I did not expect the result! The pain disappeared almost overnight and has not returned - even with no further use of the laurel. Has anyone else tried this I wonder?

Explorer's avatar

I'm sorry, I should have said BAY LEAF. Which is a kind of laurel but not the one with rounded leaves. The bay leaves have a sharp end. Maybe you knew..