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Several people helped this post with informative comments.

MIchelle Herman wrote, “Hi! Wow… I can’t believe you didn’t immediately hit the shingles with a CD sprayer or bath! Seems like it would be fastest and most effective.”

Kerri Rivera, the queen of clinical chlorine dioxide, said the same thing and added that the dose was 100-200 activated drops in a bath.

My only excuse is that I was sick, so I did not start the baths until 2 weeks into it. I did try the sprayer, but it hurt.

Another reader suggested:

Metabolic Solutions Report

Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst Nova Scotia, Canada msibio@yahoo.com 902-584-3810

Fighting the herpes virus

If fighting shingles, cold sores, STDs, etc., do these things:

1. Colloidal Silver (CS): 8 ounces, 3xday, straight or mixed with other liquids. Or just drink CS only, but at

least 16 - 24 oz/day.

2. Add drops of food-grade hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) to the CS each time just before ingestion. Add 2

drops each ingestion the first day, three drops each time the second day and keep adding another drop per

ingestion each day until you reach 10 drops. You may need to dilute the CS in extra water to lessen the

H2O2 taste. Use as much as it takes. Most Health Food stores carry food-grade hydrogen peroxide.

3. Take 3,000 mg of lysine with each meal the first day, 4,000 mg the next day, and 5,000 mg

with each meal from then on. If you can find bulk lysine powder, stir 1/2 teaspoon of the powder into any

liquid along with each meal on the first day and then one teaspoon per meal thereafter. If you can only find

capsules, make sure it is lysine only, NOT lysine mixed with other ingredients.

4. Until the shingles/cold sores are fully gone, avoid all nuts, beans, grains, and seeds. The herpes virus

absolutely LOVES chocolate and peanuts above everything else in the world. Stick with fruits, veggies,

dairy, eggs, and meats (organic if possible).

You may find that the herpes virus will stay away if you minimize those foods (nuts, etc.) and take smaller

amounts of CS and/or lysine each day.

For a bit of explanation, the herpes virus thrives on the amino acid arginine (the richest sources are nuts, beans,

grains, and seeds, in that order). However, the herpes virus cannot coexist well with the amino acid lysine.

Colloidal Silver, which kills all viruses/most bacteria, is lethal to the herpes virus.

The herpes virus is anaerobic, meaning it doesn't like oxygen. Oxygen kills it. Hence the effectiveness of

hydrogen peroxide (H2O2).

5. Stay calm. Pray. Meditate. Sing. Rest. Stress aggravates the herpes virus.

Thanks to everyone, and please always put this sort of help in the comments so everyone can benefit!

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erin's avatar

I got shingles pretty bad in 07. Been dealing with post-herpetic neuraligia ever since. I have tried a lot of things including electroacupuncture, and several herbs. The only thing that has worked was DMSO. Good stuff.

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

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yantra's avatar

good synopsis in general - i would also add lemon balm (Melissa officinalis) as tea, caps or even apply as cream. It grows easily in temperate climates, like a weed.

I am a bit surprised at the recommendation for 16 to 24 oz/day of straight colloidal silver (!) sounds like quite an overdose to me, and might even cause ones skin to turn grey . . .

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SteveBC's avatar

Dr Yoho, some thoughts on shingles: If taking L-Arginine, stop. If not taking L-Lysine, start. Most important is "red marine algae" preparations (red alaskan dulse). Then selenium, N-Acetyl-Cysteine and L-Glutamine to generate Glutathione, and as much Vitamin C orally or via IV as you can get. There are a few other ideas, but those are minor. I suggest if you don't know about Dr Frederick Klenner's work on Vitamin C, you check him out, great work in the 1940s into 1960s, if I remember correctly. I hope this helps you, as you have helped me with your writings several times. :-)

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

THANKS

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SteveBC's avatar

I had mild cases of shingles that I stopped within 2-3 days every time using these substances and a few topicals. After a while, I realized that I was curing these bouts so quickly that my adaptive immune system did not have time to re-learn how to suppress the virus and keep it suppressed (I'm 74 and lost "young" adaptive immunity suppression around age 60 or so).

Once I figured that out, I remembered Klenner talking about how to "vaccinate" yourself against any virus. I don't know if the term is out there, but I call it "Klenner Vaccination."

The next time I got shingles, I let it run for a week before hitting it with the algae and so on, just using Vitamin C or a little of the algae if the pain got a little too intense, just to tamp things down slightly but not enough to cure it. Once I completed that low-level "Klenner vaccination" process that week, I have not had shingles since, or rather, I think I've had a couple minor pains but my immune system kicked in and eliminated the pain within 2 days without me doing anything, and since then, I have had no issues at all.

Klenner vaccination is a very powerful technique. Let the illness run, tamp down the excess peaks of trouble with a little bit of C or whatever, and the immune system will (re-)learn adaptive immunity that should be life-long.

Far better than using synthetic vaccines, because the illness does not run out of control but does run long enough for the immune system to react adaptively to the actual disease organism.

Klenner was a brilliant observer and never needed double-blind studies to learn the ropes.

Note that this does not apply to bioweapons like Covid or Lyme, which need to be shut down fast. In the case of Covid, the detritus of spikes and broken spikes will guarantee both damage and adaptive reactions, whether you shut it down fast or slow, so fast is best.

Klenner did not have to deal with bioweapons, alas for us.

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Richard D's avatar

What psychiatrists do is called "medication management." That's the term which appears on the health insurance bill or invoice for psychiatric treatment. If you choose to see a psychiatrist, or to send someone else to one, what you'll get is a psychiatric diagnosis and a prescription for a pharma medication indicated for that diagnosis. Psychiatric treatment is a protocol designed by a collusion of pharma, psychiatric professional groups (e.g., American Psychiatric Association) and health insurers. A psychiatrist who dares to deviate from that pharma-based treatment protocol can lose his or her medical license.

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

ITS SICK

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Dr Linda's avatar

Agreed. They also support transgender surgery.

It’s hard to find a decent therapist these days.

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RE Nichols's avatar

I confess to being exasperated with humanity. Even many of those who saw through the Covid psy opp put implicit trust in shrinks and turn against the "crazy" family member who is too drugged, or brain damaged to think straight because some guy in a white coat has written them off as hopelessly defective criminal types.

That's what psychiatry is about. Separating the "Criminal Types" or SMI from the Normals.

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1. My self-therapy for avoiding anything that could capture and enslave me comes from my memory of an old cartoon I saw regularly in the late 1950s on TV. It was about the 3 monkeys (that is hundreds of years old in different areas of the world. One Monkey covers his eyes and says "see no evil". Another monkey covers his ears and says, "Hear no evil". The third monkey covers his mouth and says, "Speak no evil". Somebody (not on the very old cartoons) portrayed a "Do no evil" with a monkey covering his/her genitals. I pay a lot of attention to "See No Evil" because anything one looks at with interest, that same person "energizes it" with one's eyes; and as soon as it becomes an energized lifestyle addiction is already present. The only way to break it is to stop energizing it (stop looking). I remind myself near daily to stop looking (even the remembering type of looking, often called fantasy), because now I know that whatever I think about as my mind wanders, I am energizing it; so I tell myself (in my Christian background) that I have no business energizing something the Christian God hates. This has worked well for me and very quickly. When I was in first college drinking beer with dorm mates and playing cards, I would hear plenty of stories that were equivalent to fantasies. Well now I am old and I stopped doing that a long time ago. I don't look at porn; and I certainly don't want to listen to it; nor to I tell dirty jokes (speak no evil).

2. I worked at a Pennsylvania Camp for about 3 years, living on the grounds. There was a lot of tick "Lyme" concerns, so my wife and I got the Lyme vaccine. It took me almost 15 years to find out why it was taken off the market (but I don't remember anymore. I believe at the same camp my wife and I got shingles shot. In the Army (1990-91) I got 23 shots in one hour pre-combat deployment, including Anthrax and smallpox that I had never had. As a school aged young kid I had about 5 years of polio shots. one by needle, one by a squirt-gun into the shoulder, one by a sugar cube. My parents had no idea that some type of cancer-fluid was in those shots.

3. What really got to me was 3 solid years of half-week fatigue followed by half-week "I feel well enough". I did not know during my this March 2021 through about March or April 2024 that my wife had taken 4 Covid-Pfizer shots; and she was working half-time, when I was retired at home. So when we were together, within 24 hours i became fatigued and felt "less than well"; but when she went to work three days in a row (about 10 hours gone per day) I quickly felt "well enough". I'm now married over 50 years. Though I knew she was shedding on my, I thought "what the heck"! Why leave your long-term wife, when your only symptoms are "less than well (but not sick)". So I took all the best-I-could-find antioxidants, vitamins, N-acetyl-cysteine, R-Alpha-Lipoic-Acid, lots of Quercetin (I found on PubMed that Quercetin and NAC have "beat up" most Asian diseases, flus. I charted it and gave it to my MD (checking me for pre-Type II) and told him I didn't need a flu shot because I was taking Quercetin and NAC. He literally blew his stack on me, lost control, and it took him a few minutes to recover. OMG, a patient tells his doctor he has a better solution than Big Pharm! I told him I would think about it for my next visit. But never took a shot then or afterward. O also changed my diet, no more candy for hypoglycemic me; no more Lays Potato Chips, and cut back on beer tremendously. I eat potatoes and home-made nanbread with hamburger for breakfast and that type of food, in small portions for every meal. Sprouts too.

4. I worked 3 years at a Charter Psychiatric Inpatient Hospital (Adults/teens), as a Psych Tech. The whole 100 hospital chain closed while I was there, because of SSRI lawsuits by family of patients who committed suicide. What I learned from RNs there was that SSRI's "don't work well (in the 1990s)" after about 6 months; and patients need to try a different SSRI. The same ones would come in for a week or two every 6 months. I sure wish people considering taking a SSRI knew that.

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

what a story!

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RE Nichols's avatar

SSRI drugs ruined my life. Got me labeled bipolar in my very early twenties.

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

horribly addictive and produce the very syndromes they purportedly treat

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Fed up's avatar

Dear Doc, I have not read this through yet, (I’m behind on the other reads too) just the start of the post and then saw at the end about your shingles. So sorry to hear that but especially wanted to say boy, what an awful experience you described above, particularly about your brother. Parents can often be imperfect arses, but that part about your brother got me. So sorry. I pray your heart will heal over and thanks again for all you do.

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Explorer's avatar

I had severe shingles in 2021, much like yours, keeping me awake all night for 3-4 weeks. It didn't end but turned into post-herpes neuralgia, giving me pain for at least two months.

I got desperate and asked my surgery to prescribe painkillers. Luck had its funny way. The doctor forgot to send me the prescription, so I made an online search for a self-help solution. And I found this one: Essential oil from laurel leaves (the ones I use in cooking) was said to alleviate nerve (neural?) pain. I mixed several drops in a little egg cup with carrier oil (coco or argan, can't remember exactly which one) and applied on my skin repeatedly for a couple of days. But I did not expect the result! The pain disappeared almost overnight and has not returned - even with no further use of the laurel. Has anyone else tried this I wonder?

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

great comment!

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Explorer's avatar

I'm sorry, I should have said BAY LEAF. Which is a kind of laurel but not the one with rounded leaves. The bay leaves have a sharp end. Maybe you knew..

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Michael's avatar

Doctor Yoho! Greetings from a huge fan and former shingles case. I contracted my case last fall, which appeared on my right thigh. I had zero herpes outbreaks since I had chicken pox when I was four or five years old—I’m almost 74 now. However, just recently, I was reading that an increase in Nitric Oxide can cause an outbreak. I remembered that just prior to my outbreak I was taking Super Beets which is supposed to increase your body’s Nitric Oxide. So, a possible related causation factor there.

What I used during my outbreak were paper towels soaked with witch hazel to control the itching, and food grade BHT capsules. For details, please see the BHT book below in pdf format.

https://projectwellbeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/BHTbook-StevenWmFowkes-200302.pdf

I experienced some general malaise at the start of the outbreak and some pain later on…but not so much that I needed Motrin. Perhaps the BHT at work?

Anyway, there’s one more arrow for you in your Quiver of Healing.

All the continuing very best to you, sir, with my grateful thanks for your wonderful resources.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I am stunned that sexual addiction is not recognized in the DSM-5. My former spouse has a sexual addiction; it facilitated the end of our marriage. He also gave me an STD.

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

DSM is a billing manual designed to sell drugs, not a medical reference

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Dr Linda's avatar

I get it. I’m not sure why it surprises me. : (

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FloxedAndFurious's avatar

I had an intractable case of pityriasis rosea all over my back for years. Nothing, and I mean, nothing got rid of it. Then I found one of those Internet "cure" ads, typical pdf for cheap. I bought it. Treatment was repeated sessions of brushing with a borax solution. It was gone after several applications. Never came back. Borax would be another interesting topic, don't recall you covering it.

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walton ferris's avatar

Re zoster: High dose sodium ascorbate injections I(10 g to 350 g/kg) relieves the pain (0.5-1 g/min). Repeated at 12 hrs for 3 days kills it off.

I don't have all the sources handy but one is https://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinical_guide_1988.htm

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

THANKS Kerri Rivera just told me about chlorine dioxide baths too, 100-200 activated drops, soak for 25 minutes once a day.

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Jennie Gibson's avatar

Regarding Shingles also frequency specific microcurrent as taught by Dr Carolyn McMakin can greatly relieve shingles. You could search to find a practitioner near you. I have a shingles protocol loaded on my personal device in case I ever need it. Her book, The Resonance Effect explains how it works. However the sooner treatment is started the better it works.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Used it for poison ivy as well

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Dr Linda's avatar

The sculpture is remarkable

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

looks like something from the Vatican

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Gigi's avatar

Robert, I'm a huge fan and look forward to your weekly posts. Your books confirmed what I thought and have given me backing to discuss sensitive topics with my loved ones. Like you, I am a 70 year old "life-long-learner" and experiment with DMSO, CD, and supplements. I need to get back into shape. - after 2 minor falls have gotten me off track. You have inspired me with your exercise regimen. I really appreciate your candor and for sharing your experiences with all of us. All the best to you and Judy!

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Starting Strength by Rippletoe is the best weightlifting reference. Start low and go slow!

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Gigi's avatar

Thanks so much!!

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mejbcart's avatar

since in general that addiction problem starts with access to digital technology which is spreading the 'resource materials', while using the operating system of those devices, one would need to ask: WHO is having the control and monitoring over that personal access, leading to an addiction...??? How about IBF, read backwards please... And WHO is that, who hates humans so much, that making them satisfied while being utterly humiliated for few hours (!! think Viagra..), is not enough? Destroy people's, CHILDREN's entire life! This crime seems to be equivalent with genetic modifications of humans without their consent. Just my opinion.

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Brett Wilcox's avatar

Thanks for your ongoing labor of love. Your disdain for psychiatry resonates. Interesting interview. I started out as a counselor with two years working with adolescent sex offenders. Glad that's done!

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

this dude that I interviewed is OK

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Sherri's avatar

Thank you, I've always loved the psych area of what I used to do. And I'm not familiar with the Metta psych aspect. Glad to know Hillsdale which is my old stomping grounds and away was allowing people like Wolf, and issues that were really a part of humanity these days to be talked about. Thanks for the diverse amount of subject matter that you cover❤️

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Concerned in Midwest's avatar

i would say that the lack of intimacy at home almost always is the catalyst...men you are supposed to suffer.

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